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Agentic AI: small steps, big aspirations at accounting firms

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Despite its relative novelty, major accounting firms have wasted no time in capitalizing on the rise of agentic AI, with technology leaders having already developed and deployed initial solutions for both client work and internal efficiencies. 

While the precise definition can vary depending on who is asked, very broadly agentic AI could be described as software that is capable of at least some degree of autonomy to make decisions and interact with tools outside itself in order to achieve some sort of goal—whether booking a flight, sending a bill or buying a gift—without constant human guidance. Agents are not necessarily new, but the rise of generative AI has made them much easier to make and use, as doing so no longer requires specialized coding skills. 

Daren Campbell, tax technology transformation leader with Big Four firm EY, said his firm has what is referred to internally as “an agentic AI factory” which is used to facilitate onboarding and upskill staff. The firm starts with identifying processes well-suited for agentic AI integration, then works with those responsible for the process by training them up on the agent factory to build out what they need. This has led to what he called a host of “mini agents” or “a bunch of minions” automating not entire processes end-to-end (yet) but various pieces here and there within the workflow. 

“So, it’s not push button returns or anything close to that, but we… are deploying the smaller parts of the process with the intention of getting to the point where we can connect all the mini-agents to have something tackling a larger part of the process,” he said. 

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As just one example, EY is building out their current anomaly detection solutions, which already use AI to identify and visualize errors. Using agents, he said, will allow them to not just identify errors but propose corrections to those errors for review by a human. Something like this, said Martin Fiore, deputy vice chair of tax for EY Americas, would have been very difficult to do without the aid of AI agents. 

“How do you take high volumes of data that would be impossible or not worth an individual spending time on [processing] but one you use AI and in minutes or hours do what used to take years and improve this process? The bots were more reactive, but now we’ve got something proactive. … VAT is a great example, where we have a multinational organization that operates in 120 countries. How do you take that and pull it together in a way that the human can judge against? It is a step you take to get to the next level, if we don’t we can’t get the quality that we need,” he said. 

Campbell also pointed to a pilot program with several of their clients where autonomous agents tied to the company’s data actively look for regulatory changes that would affect the jurisdiction they operate from; the agent would flag the change, then notify the tax practitioners and suggest key people (e.g. external advisors, regulatory agencies) they might want to meet with to discuss the matter further. But he stressed that this is a very early development, there isn’t anything like this already in production. 

Kelly Fisher, practice partner and technology specialist with top 25 firm Wipfli, said her own firm is currently experimenting on themselves with agentic AI before introducing any new solutions to clients. The most recent thing they did was create a chained series of agents that monitors and reports on legislative and regulatory changes; there is a researcher agent, a curator agent and others that, working together, researches and reports on legislative and regulatory changes for the industries they serve.

“It is for broad brand building insights, one of our goals as an organization was to [keep up with] with the pace at which we are seeing legislative changes or chatter coming out to make sure we deploy information and thought leadership to our clients, applicable specifically to our middle market clients and their insights, faster,” she said. 

Asked when they deployed this solution, Fisher said about three weeks ago, speaking to the speed at which even non-coders can build and deploy AI agents. 

The firm turned to agents when generative AI alone was not giving them the results they wanted. They added more documents for reference as well as refined their prompts, which did improve the bot though it still felt short of the quality they needed. So the firm then turned to multi-chained agents with specific use cases that work in concert. 

“That is a pretty easy win, I would say, with semi-autonomous agents,” she said, adding that they intend to keep refining and improving the application over time. 

OJ Laos, director of the AI Lab for Top 25 firm Armanino, said his own firm went through a similar journey. If one defines agentic AI as simply autonomous software, then Armanino has already been experimenting with the technology via research platforms like Microsoft’s AutoGen as well as thirty party solutions like Swarm AI and Crew AI. At its core, he said, these were “bots talking to bots, you could actually see their conversations.” They began doing this about a year ago, using them to do things like query the latest developments in the private equity world. 

Fast forward to a year later, and AI models have improved both in terms of their performance as well as the ease of creating them. The old way, he said, was a lot slower and more complicated, and even then the bots would still occasionally “drop the ball between each other.” Recent improvements have led to new possibilities for process automation that would have been impractical just a short time ago. 

One of the examples Laos is personally very excited about is enhancements to the firm’s audit platform to automate the document collection process. One of the most common things in audits, he said, is the big list of requests, which has usually called for manual processes to complete. The auditor would send the request list to the client, the client would have to hunt down 50 or more documents and send them to the auditor, who would then need to look at it and figure out where it fits into the larger audit process or, if it doesn’t, send it back to the client. 

“This tool lets you just drop everything. If I’m the client, I’d say here’s 50 documents, go knock yourself out. The [agent] looks at them, studies what they are, figures out that this goes to that task, this goes to that auditor, this is for this use case and so on. The auditor still has to look at the evidence to see that it matches and makes sense, but it can dramatically speed that [process] up,” he said. 

The next logical step past that, he said, is to have the agent assist with substantive testing, and while this remains only theoretical for now, Laos said this is what they’re eventually building towards. 

Armanino has also been experimenting with OpenAI’s new Operator model, which is essentially a browser with agentic AI functions that appear to use the keyboard and mouse to do some task. Specifically, they have been seeing how well it works through RPA with the thought that, in time, it could reduce the need for custom integrations. 

Even when a firm doesn’t currently have agentic AI solutions deployed, many intend to do so in the future. Avani Desai, leader of top 50 firm Schellman, said that her own firm has active R&D projects for specific agentic AI use cases both for internal efficiencies and client work. 

One solution in development speaks to their cybersecurity specialization. Schellman needs to understand a client’s IT infrastructure before it can offer a proper cybersecurity solution. Right now, they wait for the client to give them this information, which they then review once they’re on site, a lengthy process that she said isn’t even technically a part of the audit itself. 

“So one thing we want to focus on from an agentic AI perspective is really on the discovery section, a lot of this can really help our newer associates, even [with] a newer client, get all that information to allow us to just be smarter when we are on site,” she said, adding that they currently don’t plan to focus on testing evidence with AI, as some of their clients aren’t comfortable with that. 

Schellman is also developing agentic AI for training purposes, creating a program that can act as a sort of digital worker with knowledge of SOC certification requirements and ISO standards and FedRamp compliance and payment card industry standards to help bring new staff up to speed. 

“We [would] have agentic AI help by saying ‘these were past decisions’ so we can improve strategies over time… What we’re really looking at is how we can look at things from a training and awareness perspective,” she said. 

Desai added that while they are intrigued by the idea of using agentic AI in compliance audits with no human intervention, “we have decided not to go down that path just yet.” 

Schellman is not of the move fast and break things mindset, which explains why they are being very deliberate with their agentic AI ambitions. The ability for agentic AI to make independent decisions and adapt itself in real time, said Desai, creates an entirely new category of risk that must be considered. Humans must be concerned not only about the independent decisions of an AI agent, they must also think about how it dynamically adapts to circumstances and work to make sure it does so in a way that aligns with ethics and guardrails. 

“This is why a human in the loop is so important because, at the end of the day, we want agentic AI to run autonomously, that is where you get the value from it, but you need to be really cognizant when you’re designing and developing agents that a human must be a part of that. … I also think there are so many AI policies around AI safety and ethics and governance: that also needs to be part of the development process. At the end of the day we won’t have [as much] human oversight once these autonomous agents start working, but I think you can identify risk and mitigate that risk early in the development lifecycle,” she said. 

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IAASB tweaks standards on working with outside experts

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The International Auditing and Assurance Standards Board is proposing to tailor some of its standards to align with recent additions to the International Ethics Standards Board for Accountants’ International Code of Ethics for Professional Accountants when it comes to using the work of an external expert.

The proposed narrow-scope amendments involve minor changes to several IAASB standards:

  • ISA 620, Using the Work of an Auditor’s Expert;
  • ISRE 2400 (Revised), Engagements to Review Historical Financial Statements;
  • ISAE 3000 (Revised), Assurance Engagements Other than Audits or Reviews of Historical Financial Information;
  • ISRS 4400 (Revised), Agreed-upon Procedures Engagements.

The IAASB is asking for comments via a digital response template that can be found on the IAASB website by July 24, 2025.

In December 2023, the IESBA approved an exposure draft for proposed revisions to the IESBA’s Code of Ethics related to using the work of an external expert. The proposals included three new sections to the Code of Ethics, including provisions for professional accountants in public practice; professional accountants in business and sustainability assurance practitioners. The IESBA approved the provisions on using the work of an external expert at its December 2024 meeting, establishing an ethical framework to guide accountants and sustainability assurance practitioners in evaluating whether an external expert has the necessary competence, capabilities and objectivity to use their work, as well as provisions on applying the Ethics Code’s conceptual framework when using the work of an outside expert.  

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Tariffs will hit low-income Americans harder than richest, report says

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President Donald Trump’s tariffs would effectively cause a tax increase for low-income families that is more than three times higher than what wealthier Americans would pay, according to an analysis from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy.

The report from the progressive think tank outlined the outcomes for Americans of all backgrounds if the tariffs currently in effect remain in place next year. Those making $28,600 or less would have to spend 6.2% more of their income due to higher prices, while the richest Americans with income of at least $914,900 are expected to spend 1.7% more. Middle-income families making between $55,100 and $94,100 would pay 5% more of their earnings. 

Trump has imposed the steepest U.S. duties in more than a century, including a 145% tariff on many products from China, a 25% rate on most imports from Canada and Mexico, duties on some sectors such as steel and aluminum and a baseline 10% tariff on the rest of the country’s trading partners. He suspended higher, customized tariffs on most countries for 90 days.

Economists have warned that costs from tariff increases would ultimately be passed on to U.S. consumers. And while prices will rise for everyone, lower-income families are expected to lose a larger portion of their budgets because they tend to spend more of their earnings on goods, including food and other necessities, compared to wealthier individuals.

Food prices could rise by 2.6% in the short run due to tariffs, according to an estimate from the Yale Budget Lab. Among all goods impacted, consumers are expected to face the steepest price hikes for clothing at 64%, the report showed. 

The Yale Budget Lab projected that the tariffs would result in a loss of $4,700 a year on average for American households.

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At Schellman, AI reshapes a firm’s staffing needs

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Artificial intelligence is just getting started in the accounting world, but it is already helping firms like technology specialist Schellman do more things with fewer people, allowing the firm to scale back hiring and reduce headcount in certain areas through natural attrition. 

Schellman CEO Avani Desai said there have definitely been some shifts in headcount at the Top 100 Firm, though she stressed it was nothing dramatic, as it mostly reflects natural attrition combined with being more selective with hiring. She said the firm has already made an internal decision to not reduce headcount in force, as that just indicates they didn’t hire properly the first time. 

“It hasn’t been about reducing roles but evolving how we do work, so there wasn’t one specific date where we ‘started’ the reduction. It’s been more case by case. We’ve held back on refilling certain roles when we saw opportunities to streamline, especially with the use of new technologies like AI,” she said. 

One area where the firm has found such opportunities has been in the testing of certain cybersecurity controls, particularly within the SOC framework. The firm examined all the controls it tests on the service side and asked which ones require human judgment or deep expertise. The answer was a lot of them. But for the ones that don’t, AI algorithms have been able to significantly lighten the load. 

“[If] we don’t refill a role, it’s because the need actually has changed, or the process has improved so significantly [that] the workload is lighter or shared across the smarter system. So that’s what’s happening,” said Desai. 

Outside of client services like SOC control testing and reporting, the firm has found efficiencies in administrative functions as well as certain internal operational processes. On the latter point, Desai noted that Schellman’s engineers, including the chief information officer, have been using AI to help develop code, which means they’re not relying as much on outside expertise on the internal service delivery side of things. There are still people in the development process, but their roles are changing: They’re writing less code, and doing more reviewing of code before it gets pushed into production, saving time and creating efficiencies. 

“The best way for me to say this is, to us, this has been intentional. We paused hiring in a few areas where we saw overlaps, where technology was really working,” said Desai.

However, even in an age awash with AI, Schellman acknowledges there are certain jobs that need a human, at least for now. For example, the firm does assessments for the FedRAMP program, which is needed for cloud service providers to contract with certain government agencies. These assessments, even in the most stable of times, can be long and complex engagements, to say nothing of the less predictable nature of the current government. As such, it does not make as much sense to reduce human staff in this area. 

“The way it is right now for us to do FedRAMP engagements, it’s a very manual process. There’s a lot of back and forth between us and a third party, the government, and we don’t see a lot of overall application or technology help… We’re in the federal space and you can imagine, [with] what’s going on right now, there’s a big changing market condition for clients and their pricing pressure,” said Desai. 

As Schellman reduces staff levels in some places, it is increasing them in others. Desai said the firm is actively hiring in certain areas. In particular, it’s adding staff in technical cybersecurity (e.g., penetration testers), the aforementioned FedRAMP engagements, AI assessment (in line with recently becoming an ISO 42001 certification body) and in some client-facing roles like marketing and sales. 

“So, to me, this isn’t about doing more with less … It’s about doing more of the right things with the right people,” said Desai. 

While these moves have resulted in savings, she said that was never really the point, so whatever the firm has saved from staffing efficiencies it has reinvested in its tech stack to build its service line further. When asked for an example, she said the firm would like to focus more on penetration testing by building a SaaS tool for it. While Schellman has a proof of concept developed, she noted it would take a lot of money and time to deploy a full solution — both of which the firm now has more of because of its efficiency moves. 

“What is the ‘why’ behind these decisions? The ‘why’ for us isn’t what I think you traditionally see, which is ‘We need to get profitability high. We need to have less people do more things.’ That’s not what it is like,” said Desai. “I want to be able to focus on quality. And the only way I think I can focus on quality is if my people are not focusing on things that don’t matter … I feel like I’m in a much better place because the smart people that I’ve hired are working on the riskiest and most complicated things.”

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