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A ‘soft landing’ is still on the table, economists say

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Recession fears led to a sharp stock-market selloff in recent days, with the S&P 500 index posting a 3% loss Monday, its worst in almost two years.

Weaker-than-expected job data on Friday fueled concerns that the U.S. economy is on shaky footing, and that the Federal Reserve may have erred in its goal of achieving a so-called “soft landing.”

A soft landing would mean the Fed charted a path with its interest-rate policy that tamed inflation without triggering an economic downturn.

Federal data on Friday showed a sharp jump in the U.S. unemployment rate. Investors worried this signaled a “hard landing” was becoming more likely.

However, the odds of a recession starting within the next year are still relatively low, economists said.

In other words, a soft landing is still in the cards, they said.

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“I think far and away the most likely scenario is a soft landing: The economy avoids an economic downturn,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s.

Likewise, Jay Bryson, chief economist at Wells Fargo Economics, said a soft landing remains his “base case” forecast.

But recession worries aren’t totally unfounded due to some signs of economic weakness, he said.

“I think the fears are real,” he said. “I wouldn’t discount them.”

Avoiding recession would also require the Fed to soon start cutting interest rates, Zandi and Bryson said.

If borrowing costs remain high, it increases the danger of a recession, they said.

Why are people freaking out?

The “big shock” on Friday — and a root cause of the ensuing stock-market rout — came from the monthly jobs report issued by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Bryson said.

The unemployment rate rose to 4.3% in July, up from 4.1% in June and 3.5% a year earlier, it showed.

A 4.3% national jobless rate is low by historical standards, economists said.

But its steady increase in the past year triggered the so-called “Sahm rule.” If history is a guide, that would suggest the U.S. economy is already in a recession.

The Sahm rule is triggered when the three-month moving average of the U.S. unemployment rate is half a percentage point (or more) above its low over the prior 12 months.

That threshold was breached in July, when the Sahm rule recession indicator hit 0.53 points.

Goldman Sachs raised its recession forecast over the weekend to 25% from 15%. (Downturns occur every six to seven years, on average, putting the annual odds around 15%, economists said.)

Zandi estimates the chances of a recession starting over the next year at about 1 in 3, roughly double the historical norm. Bryson puts the probability at about 30% to 40%.

The Sahm rule may not be accurate this time

More Americans entered the job market and looked for work. Those who are on the sidelines and looking for work are officially counted amid the ranks of “unemployed” in federal data, thereby boosting the unemployment rate.

The labor force grew by 420,000 people in July relative to June — a “pretty big” number, Bryson said.

Meanwhile, some federal data suggest businesses are holding on to workers:  The layoff rate was 0.9% in June, tied for the lowest on record dating to 2000, for example.

‘The flags are turning red’

That said, there have been worrying signs of broader cooling in the labor market, economists said.

For example, hiring has slowed below its pre-pandemic baseline, as have the share of workers quitting for new gigs. Claims for unemployment benefits have gradually increased. The unemployment rate is at its highest level since the fall of 2021.

“The labor market is in a perilous spot,” Nick Bunker, economic research director for North America at job site Indeed, wrote in a memo Friday.

“Yellow flags had started to pop up in the labor market data over the past few months, but now the flags are turning red,” he added.

Other positive signs

I think far and away the most likely scenario is a soft landing: The economy avoids an economic downturn.

Mark Zandi

chief economist at Moody’s

Underlying fundamentals in the economy like the financial health of households are “still pretty good” in aggregate, Bryson said.

It’s also a near certainty the Fed will start cutting interest rates in September, taking some pressure off households, especially lower earners, economists said.

“This is not September 2008, by any stretch of the imagination, where it was ‘jump into a fox hole as fast as you can,'” Bryson said. “Nor is it March 2020 when the economy was shutting down.”

“But there are some signs the economy is starting to weaken here,” he added.

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A growing share of Gen Z adults don’t think they’ll retire

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Gen Z is the youngest generation of adults today, but with many struggling to make ends meet, a growing proportion say they do not expect to retire and few are socking away money to do so.

A new report from the TIAA Institute and UTA’s NextGen Practice found that a greater share of these adults age 27 and below do not anticipate retiring – at least in the traditional sense – after prior data showed nearly half of young adults either don’t want to retire, don’t believe they will be able to afford to, or are not thinking about it at all.

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Gen Z as a whole has a very different view of retirement than previous generations, and a growing proportion of young adults say they do not plan on retiring at all. (iStock / iStock)

What’s more, just 20% of Gen Z respondents of working age say they are saving for retirement at all. While planning for retirement is important for everyone, saving for the future is critical for this generation that is projected to live past 100 years old. Yet, a higher cost of living could be impacting their ability to do so.

The study found that almost one-third of Gen Z (29%) are living paycheck-to-paycheck, with most of their money going to funding their basic needs, making it increasingly difficult for them to achieve financial milestones like homeownership while saving for their financial futures.

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“Thirty-six percent of respondents cited high debt or low income as the primary reason they are not saving for retirement,” Surya Kolluri, head of the TIAA Institute told FOX Business. “Gen Z is spending more on essentials than previous generations.”

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Inflation is weighing on Gen Z’s finances more than prior generations, data shows. (iStock / iStock)

Kolluri said it is true that Gen Z is bearing the brunt of inflation more than the generations that preceded them, noting that as of this year, the annual inflation rate for Gen Z was half a percent higher than it was for other generations at the same age. 

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But Kolluri pointed to some positive findings in the data, too. He said that while only 1 in 5 reported saving for retirement, 66% of those who are saving for retirement are doing so through 401(k)s

There is also at least an awareness amid Gen Z’ers that it is important to save for the future. Eighty-four percent report saving a portion of their income each month (albeit not for retirement), and 57% say they have a budget that they stick to.

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Kolluri noted 52% of Gen Z reported putting savings into savings accounts because they value the liquidity that supports current financial freedom. 

“They do not equate saving for retirement as helping to ensure their financial freedom later in life…and ‘freedom’ is a concept that is very important to Gen Z,” he said. “They want flexibility and access to savings if and as they want.”

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After rejecting Google takeover, Wiz says will IPO when ‘stars align’

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Wiz co-founder discusses the company's expansion into the UK

LONDON — Cybersecurity firm Wiz is seeking to hit $1 billion of annual recurring revenues next year, the company’s billionaire co-founder Roy Reznik told CNBC, adding that the firm will go public “when the stars align.”

Wiz makes software that connects to cloud storage providers like Amazon Web Services or Microsoft Azure and scans for everything it stores in the cloud, helping organizations identify and remove risks in their cloud environments. It was founded by four Israeli friends while they served in 8200, the intelligence unit of Israel’s army, and most of Wiz’s engineering personnel are still based in Tel Aviv, Israel.

Earlier this year, the company rejected a $23-billion acquisition bid from Google, which would have marked the tech giant’s largest-ever takeover. At the time, Wiz CEO Assaf Rappaport said the startup was “flattered” by the offer, but would remain an independent company and aim to list instead.

Speaking with CNBC at Wiz’s new office space in London, Reznik said that the company has received offers from “many people that want to get their hands on Wiz stock” — but that, while “very flattering,” the firm still thinks it can do it alone by going public.

“We’ve already broken a few records as a private company, and we believe we can also break a few more records as an independent public company as well,” Reznik said.

Four-year-old Wiz has raised $1.9 billion in venture capital to date, including $1 billion secured this year in a funding round led by Andreessen Horowitz, Lightspeed Venture Partners and Thrive Capital at a valuation of $12 billion.

In 2022, Wiz said it had reached $100 million in annual recurring revenue (ARR), up from just $1 million in 18 months. At the time, the startup said it was “the fastest software company to achieve this feat.”

Reznik, who is the vice president of research and development at Wiz, said the firm now hopes to double from the $500 million of ARR it achieved this year and hit $1 billion in ARR in 2025, which CEO Rappaport cited as a key condition before the company goes public.

UK expansion

Wiz has been expanding its presence internationally, with a particular focus on Europe, from where it sources 35% of its revenues. Last month, the firm opened its first European office in London.

Wiz co-founder discusses the company's expansion into the UK

“I think the talent here is amazing, and the ecosystem is amazing,” Reznik told CNBC. “We have always been very much involved in Europe — and specifically the U.K. — and I feel like it’s a natural evolvement of Wiz to double down even more here in London and the U.K.”

The U.K. represents a major growth opportunity when it comes to cybersecurity, Reznik said, adding that recent events like the cyberattack on National Health Service hospitals and an incident affecting Transport for London have “roof topped” the level of interest in the kinds of products Wiz offers.

“The cloud market is going to reach $1 trillion over the next next few years,” Reznik, who moved from Israel to the U.K. just three months ago, told CNBC. “This year is going to be around $700 million, while security is just 4% out of that, I would say. So that makes it a $30 billion market, which is huge.”

Speaking about the U.K. market, Reznik said: “We see a lot of interest here. Many of the largest banks and retailers, are Wiz customers. But we’re also seeing a huge potential for growth.”

Wiz’s customers include online retailer ASOS and digital bank Revolut as customers in the U.K.

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