Josh Brown once had this idea that in order to be a financial advisor, you needed to be buttoned up and fit a particular mold.
Brown, a CNBC contributor who often takes a casual and accessible tack with investors for his commentary, has since learned that there’s more than meets the eye to a lot of things in the world of money.
Throughout his new book, “You Weren’t Supposed To See That: Secrets Every Investor Should Know,” Brown encourages investors to look beyond the surface level of financial advice you see in traditional and social media. Take the American Dream, for example:
“We all grow up being taught about the American Dream and why it can work for everyone,” said Brown, who is the CEO of Ritholtz Wealth Management, a New York City-based investment advisory firm. “I still believe that’s true, but what we learned in the pandemic is it can’t work for everyone all at once. That’s the thing that you weren’t supposed to see.
“The hidden truth about American-style capitalism is that if everybody is good all at once, the whole thing breaks down. We need people to be successful, but we also need people who are still striving to get there, who are willing to take jobs and do things that others won’t do.”
What we learned in the pandemic is it can’t work for everyone all at once.
Joshua Brown
CEO of Ritholtz Wealth Management, a New York City-based advisory firm
CNBC spoke with Brown in early October about his experience in the field as a financial advisor and some of his top takeaways for investors across generations.
This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.
‘One of the biggest lies on Wall Street’
Ana Teresa Solá: What led you to write this book?
Joshua Brown: I had been writing a blog [The Reformed Broker] for about 15 years, and I was writing seven days a week at one point. Then the momentum started to slow down as my career took over.
At the end of last year, I decided to put an end to it and just say, “This is as far as I could take this.” But I didn’t want to not give it the proper send off, because it was a huge part of my life.
When you put your heart and soul into that much writing over that length of time, you kind of want to say, “All right … these are the most important insights, and these are the things that I think were important at the time. And let me do something that recognizes that.”
I wanted to collect all those insights in a book, revisit some of the greatest hits, and then bring them up to the present so that there is a value to the reader today.
ATS:You echo this idea throughout the book, that you can’t reap the rewards of the stock market without some impact.
JB: One of the biggest lies on Wall Street is that investors can avoid risk and still have the upside of whatever asset class, the markets, etc. It will always be the biggest lie because it’s the easiest thing on earth to sell.
Everybody wants it, and even very intellectually secure people who understand logic will still fall for that.
When you’re a salesperson, one of the things you learn is to figure out who you’re talking to and what their buttons are, and then you push those buttons.
Josh Brown on the CNBC set at the New York Stock Exchange.
Photo: James Moock
The thing that we have done very well in our content as a firm, is we have pointed out the ways in which people are convinced to do one thing or the other, and how much human nature plays into that and why it’s really important to fight those instincts, whether it’s fear or greed, as the markets are unfolding.
You really don’t want to veer too far into one of those buckets. You want to be right down the middle. Take enough risk that you can make money, but not take so much risk that you’re about to get the knockout punch.
Financial advice industry ‘has come a long way’
ATS: In the book, there’s a story about how you walked into this financial advisor’s office and her technique was not what you expected.
JB: That’s about more than 10 years ago, and it was a really eye-opening moment for me. Prior to that, I was very intimidated to make the transition from being a retail stockbroker to an investment advisor.
I had this idea in my head that all the people who were serving as investment advisors were like these serious, buttoned up professionals who knew exactly what to do — and it really turned out not to be that. It turned out to be a lot of people pretending.
The industry has come a long way since then. The average advisor is significantly better equipped to deal with clients and more professionalized than what I had seen in that era.
That’s kind of a relic of another time that no longer exists. I don’t think that you can fake it to the degree that you used to be able to. [Many advisors are] operating on a fiduciary standard, I don’t think you could fool people anymore.
Gen Z doesn’t need financial planning advice. They need asset allocation advice.
Joshua Brown
CEO of Ritholtz Wealth Management, a New York City-based advisory firm
ATS: You say young advisors are equipped with the expertise, but they lack something prior generations of advisors have. What is it?
JB: You have this new generation of incredibly qualified financial planning talent. They’re coming out of college knowing more at 23 than many advisors at 43 have ever learned about the planning process.
This is my opinion — I’m sure people [will] get mad when they hear this — but what they’re missing is the ability to convert an audience of prospective clients into real relationships.
They don’t yet have the life experience. Generationally, they’ve been able to get away with doing a lot less face-to-face. They haven’t dealt with as much rejection as Gen X, certainly the boomers.
Let’s put them in some rooms with important meetings going on. Let’s give them opportunities to have these face-to-face interactions, because they really know what they’re doing.
Where they’re lacking is what my generation and older has — which is the ability to sell, to persuade, to make people feel comfortable and the ability to deal with awkward social circumstances.
‘Gen Z doesn’t need financial planning advice’
ATS: What are you observing with Gen Z and how they’re seeking financial advice?
JB: Gen Z, they don’t need financial planning advice. They need asset allocation advice. They don’t have the assets accumulated. There are no estate issues. There aren’t really tax things worth discussing.
Whatever they’re encountering on TikTok is whatever the algorithm is serving them, and the algorithm is going to serve them the most outrageous content, it’s going to serve them shortcuts, facts, tricks, stories about people making wild, Bonanza size trades.
It’s not advice … Most of it is being delivered by completely unqualified people who are not registered, who are not beholden to any sort of standard, and could just say whatever they want.
But I think what ends up happening with that generation, just like every generation prior, is things in their life become more complex. The level of responsibility goes up, the amount of money that they’re dealing with goes up, and they will, in turn, start looking for help.
Americans are determined to travel this holiday season — and certain workarounds are helping them take those trips.
The ability to workremotely is a major leg up when planning out itineraries.
About 49% of employed travelers are “laptop luggers” — those who plan to work at some point on their holiday vacation — up from 34% last year, according to the Deloitte holiday travel survey.
This flexibility allows workers to take trips they might not otherwise, or stretch their trips for longer, according to the survey.
While there are more laptop luggers across most age groups and income levels, Gen Zers, which Deloitte defines as those born between 1997 and 2012, and high earners make up the highest shares, at 58% and 52%, respectively, according to the survey.
Deloitte polled 4,074 American adults in September. Of that group, 2,005 were identified as holiday travelers.
The change in laptop luggers is “a pretty high jump. It’s almost across all income levels and age groups,” said Eileen Crowley, vice chair and U.S. transportation, hospitality and services attest leader at Deloitte.
Since the pandemic, remote work has become a priority for job seekers, said Julia Pollak, chief economist at ZipRecruiter.
In the third quarter, 51% of surveyed job seekers said the ability to work from wherever they want is a top reason for remote jobs, up from 40.8% in the first quarter of 2022, according to ZipRecruiter data.
“The value to U.S. workers of being able to work from anywhere has clearly grown over the course of the great remote work experiment,” she said.
In addition to working during their trip, travelers are coming up with other workarounds such as driving instead of flying or cutting back on other expenses, experts said.
“People are willing to cut corners to save money, but they don’t want to skip the trip entirely,” said Ted Rossman, an industry analyst at Bankrate.
Who’s spending on holiday travel this year
High earners are driving holiday travel and spending trends this year, according to experts.
When it comes to holiday travel, 52% of shoppers with incomes of $100,000 or more said they can “easily afford” that expense, according to Morning Consult, a survey research firm. That is the highest share compared with mid- to low-income groups.
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“Higher-income consumers are not nearly as price sensitive,” Stacy Francis, president and CEO of Francis Financial, a wealth management, financial planning and divorce financial planning firm in New York City, recently told CNBC.
“They’re not nearly as budget conscious as people in lower-wage-earning brackets,” said Francis, a member of CNBC’s Financial Advisor Council.
Among generational groups, millennials, or those born between 1980 and 1996, have the highest budgets and longest travel planned. According to the report, millennials plan to take about 2.6 trips over the course of the holiday season and spend on average $3,927, per the Deloitte survey.
What’s making holiday travel possible this year
More than 4 in 5 holiday travelers, 83%, are finding ways to save money this holiday season, such as driving instead of flying, according to Bankrate.
“Most of these people are still traveling, they’re just doing so differently to cut some costs,” Rossman said.
Separately, about 50% of respondents are cutting back on other expenses and 49% are picking up discounts and deals, according to the 2024 Holiday Travel Outlook by Hopper, a travel site.
Among other strategies, 22% plan to travel on off-peak days and 21% are using credit card points or miles to cover some of the cost, the Hopper report found.
If you do plan to pull out your laptop and work during a holiday vacation, make sure to review your company’s rules around remote work, said Pollak. Some companies require employees to work from their home, from within the company’s home state or within the U.S. unless otherwise authorized.
“You risk getting your access shut off, being punished or even having your employment terminated if you try to work from elsewhere,” Pollak said.
Touch base with your manager or director about the idea as well, she said: “Some managers just care that you’re getting the job done and aren’t concerned how.”
Finally, you want to make sure the location you plan to work from has a strong electric grid or service and Wi-Fi is reliable.
“If you’re on the hook for work, make sure you are somewhere where you can get it done,” Pollak said.
Spending on experiences such as travel and concerts spiked after pandemic-era lockdowns and restrictions because of pent-up demand from Americans, experts say.
Yet even after several years, travel “seems to be something that’s sticking,” said Deloitte’s Crowley: “People are placing value and making room in their budgets for travel.”
Approximately 1 in 3 U.S. adults ages 18 to 34 live in their parents’ home, according to U.S. Census Bureau data.
The pandemic caused more young adults to return home or remain living with their parents into their late 20s and 30s, but aside from that spike, the numbers have remained fairly consistent in recent years.
Pre-pandemic, the most recent surge in the share of 18- to 34-year-olds living with their parents occurred between 2005 and 2015, according to data from the Census Bureau.
“Those were the times coming [during] the Great Recession and coming out of the Great Recession, and there were a lot of media narratives at the time about millennials eating too much avocado toast to live on their own,” said Joanne Hsu, a research associate professor at the University of Michigan who co-authored a 2015 study on “boomerang” kids for the Federal Reserve.
“What we found was that part of the reason we see this escalation of young adults not leaving the nest or returning to the nest is this idea that it was harder and harder for them to weather shocks,” Hsu said.
Economic shocks are significant and unexpected events that disrupt financial stability and markets, which then affect households’ income, employment and debt levels. The 2008 financial crisis, the Great Recession and the pandemic are all examples of economic shocks.
More than half of Gen Z adults say they don’t make enough money to live the life they want due to the high cost of living, according to a 2024 survey from Bank of America.A significant number of millennials and Gen Z adults lack emergency savings.
‘Why rent and give my money to someone else?’
Victoria Franklin, left, has lived with her mother, Terilyn Franklin, right, in Oceanport, New Jersey, since she graduated from college in 2019.
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Victoria Franklin, 27, moved back to her mom’s house in the summer of 2019 after graduating from college to search for a job in business administration.
“I ended up bartending and waitressing until October [of 2019], where I got my first offer,” Franklin said. “So it did take a little bit longer than I expected.”
She found a job in her field in New York City, which required a two-hour commute from her mother’s home on the Jersey Shore.
“I thought, you know, in six months or so, I’ll move into the city, be closer to the job,” Franklin said. “And the pandemic threw a wrench in those plans.”
Franklin decided to continue living at her mom’s house after switching to a fully remote job in fall 2023.
“My mentality is why rent and give my money to someone else when I can start to own?” Franklin said.
Franklin said she’s saving between 40% and 50% of her income, with “a big chunk” allocated toward a down payment on a house.
While living with parents can provide personal financial benefits, experts say this trend can negatively affect the economy.
“We do also have a situation that what is really good for an individual person or an individual family is not necessarily good for the entire macro economy,” Hsu said. “One of the big boosts to consumer spending is when people form households.”
The Federal Reserve estimated in a 2019 paper that young adults who move out of their parents’ home would spend about $13,000 more per year on things such as housing, food and transportation.
Watch the video above to learn more about why the trend of young adults living with their parents is continuing and what it means for the economy.
A customer visits Macy’s Herald Square store in New York City during early morning Black Friday sales, Nov. 24, 2023.
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Typically, the five days beginning Thanksgiving Day and ending Cyber Monday are some of the busiest shopping days of the year.
This year, the number of people shopping in stores and online during that period could hit a new record, according to the National Retail Federation’s annual survey.
But consumers trying to make the most of the Black Friday sales may not be getting the best prices of the season.
According to WalletHub’s 2023 Best Things to Buy on Black Friday report, 35% of items at major retailers offered no savings compared with their pre-Black Friday prices. The site compared Black Friday advertisements against prices on Amazon earlier that fall.
“Some Black Friday deals are misleading as retailers may inflate original prices to make a deal look like a better value,” said consumer savings expert Andrea Woroch.
This year, in particular, some of the deals are already as good as they are going to get.
“Those holidays have gotten a little watered down because retailers want to maximize the selling days,” said Adam Davis, managing director at Wells Fargo Retail Finance.
“Compounding the importance of stretching the holiday season, retailers are facing a shorter selling season between Thanksgiving and Christmas — almost a week shorter in 2024,” he said. “That will force the retailer’s hand to be pretty promotional in November.”
Concerns about shipping
There’s another good reason to shop early.
Consumers are increasingly concerned that their online orders may not arrive in time for the holiday — and rightfully so.
DHL Supply Chain’s new CEO for North America, Patrick Kelleher, recently told CNBC that items may arrive later than in years past, especially those ordered around big dates such as Black Friday and Cyber Monday.
In a period of such high volume, third-party shippers are particularly strained, according to Lauren Beitelspacher, a professor of marketing at Babson College. An ongoing labor shortage also means that some companies simply cannot hire enough workers to sort, transport and deliver packages on time.
“We are very spoiled; we got to the point where we think of something we want and it magically appears,” Beitelspacher said. But at the same time, “we’ve learned how fragile the supply chain is.”
When there are more packages to ship, shipping times increase, which can also boost the chance they may get damaged, lost or stolen en route — not to mention the risk of “porch piracy” once an item is delivered.
What discounts to expect on Black Friday
“You are easily going to see 20% to 30% off,” Davis said — but “not necessarily storewide.”
Depending on the retailer, some markdowns could be up to 50%, according to Beitelspacher. However, premium brands — including high-end activewear companies such as Nike, Alo or Lululemon — likely will not discount more than 20% or 30%, she said. “It’s a fine balance with maintaining the premium brand integrity and offering promotions.”
As in previous years, these companies are aware of how price sensitive consumers have become.
“The holidays are a time people want to treat themselves, but they also want to make their dollar last longer,” Beitelspacher said.
To that end, retailers will also try to lure shoppers to spend with incentives, such as a free gift card with a minimum purchase, Woroch said. “Many stores will also offer bonus rewards when you spend a certain amount on Black Friday.”
What not to buy on Black Friday
Typically, Black Friday is a great time to find rock-bottom prices on fall clothing — including flannels, denim, coats and accessories — as well as televisions and consumer electronics.
But hold off on beauty and footwear, which are typically better buys on Cyber Monday, Woroch said.
For those planning a trip, “Travel Tuesday” is a good time to snag discounts on airfares, cruises and tour packages, with many hotels offering 20% to 30% off best available rates. Travelers can check out Travel Tuesday deals from 2023 to get an idea of what to expect this year.
With toys, it could pay to hold out until the last two weeks of December, and holiday decorations are cheaper the last few days before Christmas or right after, according to Woroch.
Exercise equipment, linens and bedding tend to be marked down more during January’s “white sales,” she said, and furniture and mattress deals are often better over other holiday weekends throughout the year, such as Presidents’ Day, Memorial Day and Labor Day weekends.
How to get even lower prices
Woroch recommends using a price-tracking browser extension such as Honey or Camelizer to keep an eye on price changes and alert you when a price drops. Honey will also scan for applicable coupon codes.
If you are shopping in person, try the ShopSavvy app for price comparisons. If an item costs less at another store or popular site, often the retailer will match the price, Woroch said.
Further, stack discounts: Combining credit card rewards with coupon codes and a cash-back site such as CouponCabin.com will earn money back on those purchases. Then, take pictures of your receipts using the Fetch app and get points that can be redeemed for gift cards at retailers such as Walmart, Target and Amazon.
Finally, pay attention to price adjustment policies. “If an item you buy over Black Friday goes on sale for less shortly after, you may be able to request a price adjustment,” Woroch said. Some retailers such as Target have season-long policies that may apply to purchases made up until Dec. 25.