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Accounting firm MPs and AI: ‘A smart intern on their first day’

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The marketing department of Cincinnati-based Barnes Dennig uses artificial intelligence for creating summaries, generating ideas for headlines and social media posts, and developing bios from resumes — but all of those are then evaluated and edited by a human marketer.

“In marketing, we leverage AI using the great description of ‘thinking of AI as a smart intern on their first day,'” explained firm managing director Jay Rammes, who was just named to Accounting Today’s 2024 Managing Partner Elite. (See the full list here.

Marketing isn’t the only area where Barnes Dennig is applying AI — its assurance department uses AI to review thousands of leases to highlight key provisions in seconds, for instance — but it applies the same caution to reviewing the technology’s outputs.

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“We’re utilizing AI across multiple practices within the firm, piloting new tools in a controlled ‘sandbox’ approach, evaluating outputs, and planning strategic steps forward,” explained Rammes. 

Many of the other members of the MP Elite were similarly excited to explore AI — and similarly cautious.

Speaking specifically of generative AI tools like ChatGPT, Carla McCall, the MP of AAFCPAs (and chair of the American Institute of CPAs), said, “Yes, it has a lot of power and it can do a lot of good, but it also can be used by bad actors. So we have to be careful. We need responsible policies, and we also need to then think about what that new technology also does for risk within our firms and how are we managing that risk.” 

“When I sat in on CPA.com’s and the AICPA’s AI symposium in December, what really stood out to me was the speaker that talked about developing a responsible AI policy,” she continued. “So not just, ‘Yes, you can use it.’ … It’s really about how do we create cultures where we’re all aligned on the definition of it, when we use it, how do we implement it, how do we govern it? How do we have accountability and monitoring and all of this? The bigger the firm, the more effort that it’s going to take to have us all aligned around that, so we’re using it in a responsible way.”

Having strong policies in place is important, because AAFCPAs is deeply engaged with AI. The Massachusetts-based firm is leveraging it as part of its Automation Center of Excellence, and has teams trying out Microsoft Copilot for a number of tasks, using GPT to query for Excel codes, using an AI large language model tool for tax research, and much more.

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On the opposite coast, California-based Bartlett, Pringle & Wolf is exploring a similarly broad range of applications for AI, according to MP Eileen Sheridan — including using the same LLM tool, Ask Blue J, for tax research.

“Our firm is dedicated to leveraging AI to improve efficiency, gain deeper client insights, and provide top-notch services,” said Sheridan. “Spearheaded by our tax partner-in-charge, our team is currently exploring AI’s potential and future opportunities, along with using gen AI in our tax research.”

Making the investment

All that exploration requires investment, and the members of this year’s MP Elite are not shying away from that. For instance, Christopher Geier, the CEO of Sikich, greenlit a “substantial” budget for research and development around generative AI as soon as it became clear how much of a disruptor it was going to be (an investment made easier, no doubt, by the $250 million the firm recently brought on from Bain Capital). Among other things, the Chicago-based firm is piloting an AI-based human resources chatbot to give personalized support to staff while easing the workload of the HR team.

Vancouver, Washington-based Opsahl Dawson is getting a leg up on AI thanks to having joined private equity-backed accounting firm platform Ascend at the start of 2023.

(See what the MP Elite think about filling the pipeline of people entering the profession.)

“We are beginning the work to become a regional leader in AI thanks to the investment of powerful resources by Ascend, which is something that would have been too much to tackle by ourselves,” said Opsahl Dawson MP Aaron Dawson. “As AI’s muscle trickles down from the large national firms and gets to the large local firms, I think there’s going to be a lot of challenges with how you implement it and how you harness it. So because of Ascend, we’re going to be ahead of the game.”

“We’re going to have a special operations team that really understands and knows how to deploy different AI offerings,” he explained. “We will have a very well-thought-through strategy that will be able to be efficiently implemented at our firm and at the other firms at every level of Ascend’s platform.”

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To be clear, AI is not the exclusive preserve of large firms or those with major outside backing. Al-Nesha Jones’ ASE Group, for instance, which has just four employees, is just as active with artificial intelligence as any of the larger firms of her peers in the MP Elite.

“We use AI-driven tools in our accounting and tax workflows to automate data entry, analyze information, identify trends, monitor KPIs, and create more robust reporting for our clients,” Jones explained. “This technology streamlines our processes, reduces errors, saves time and mental capacity, and enhances the accuracy and timeliness of our service delivery. … By embracing AI, we improve efficiency, accuracy, and client satisfaction.”

While all of the MP Elite are exploring AI, that doesn’t mean they’re all at the same stage of exploration. San Francisco’s Kruze Consulting has a bit of a head start, according to founder Vanessa Kruze, thanks to a client base of technology companies that includes many software-as-a-service and AI startups.

“We frequently beta test the latest AI tools for startups and serve on product advisory councils for the largest accounting and fintech software providers,” she said. “This helps us to not only better understand automation and AI tools, but also provide feedback to developers. This relationship also benefits our clients because of the inroads we have developed that lead us to be able to quickly address any issues [our clients] may face. We serve some of the top AI companies in the market, which gives us a unique keyhole in the latest AI trends and keeps us on top of new advancements.”

No matter where they are in their engagement with artificial intelligence, all the members of this year’s MP Elite recognize its importance, and how important a role it is going to play in the future of their firms, and of the accounting profession.

“AI will continue to evolve at an exponential rate, and we’re going to see many significant advances in the CPA profession as well as in virtually all other sectors of the business world,” said Barnes Dennig’s Rammes. “It’s been said that AI won’t replace professionals across a variety of industries, but professionals who don’t leverage AI may be replaced by those who do.”

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GASB issues guidance on capital asset disclosures

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The Governmental Accounting Standards Board issued guidance today that will require separate disclosures for certain types of capital assets for the purposes of note disclosures.

GASB Statement No. 104, Disclosure of Certain Capital Assets, also establishes requirements and additional disclosures for capital assets held for sale. 

The statement requires certain types of assets to be disclosed separately in the note disclosures about capital assets. The intent is to allow users to make better informed decisions and to evaluate accountability. The requirements are effective for fiscal years beginning after June 15, 2025, and all reporting periods thereafter, though earlier application is encouraged.

The guidance requires separate disclosures for four types of capital assets:

  1. Lease assets reported under Statement 87, by major class of underlying asset;
  2. Intangible right-to-use assets recognized by an operator under Statement 94, by major class of underlying asset;
  3. Subscription assets reported under Statement 96; and,
  4. Intangible assets other than those listed in items 1-3, by major class of asset.

Under the guidance, a capital asset is a capital asset held for sale if the government has decided to pursue the sale of the asset, and it is probable the sale will be finalized within a year of the financial statement date. A government should disclose the historical cost and accumulated depreciation of capital assets held for sale, by major class of asset.

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On the move: RRBB hires tax partner

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Suha Uddin was hired as a tax partner at RRBB Advisors, Somerset. 

Sax, Paterson, announced that its annual run/walk event SAX 4 Miler, supporting the Child Life Department at St. Joseph’s Children’s Hospital in Paterson, has achieved $1 million in total funds raised since its inception in 2012.    

Withum, Princeton, rolled out a new outsourcing service offering as part of its sustainability and ESG practice designed to help companies comply with the European Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive, the mandate requires reporting of detailed sustainability performance as it pertains to the European Sustainability Reporting Standards , effective January 2023.

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Armanino takes on minority investment from Further Global

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Top 25 Firm Armanino LLP has taken on a strategic minority investment from private equity firm Further Global Capital Management.

The deal, which closed today, is the latest in the series of investments by private equity in large accounting firms that began in 2021 — but with a key difference, Armanino CEO Matt Armanino told Accounting Today.

“What’s maybe the punchline here — what’s really unique, I think — is that we wanted to focus on a minority investment that allowed us to retain not just operational control of the business, but ownership control of the business,” he said. “Those are some of the guiding principles that we’ve been thinking about over the last number of years, and we felt like if we could accomplish those things strategically with the right partner, it would really be just a home run, and that’s where we think we’ve landed.”

As is common with CPA firms taking on private equity investment, Armanino LLP will restructure to an alternative practice structure, splitting into two independently owned and governed professional-services entities: Armanino LLP, a licensed CPA firm wholly owned by individual CPAs, will provide attest services to clients, and Armanino Advisory LLC, a consulting and advisory firm, will perform non-attest services.

Inside the deal

As have many large firms, Armanino LLP had been looking at private equity for some time.

“We’ve been analyzing the PE trend over the last few years and our discussions with Further Global actually began several years ago, and along the way we confirmed our initial inclination that Further Global would be a great partner for us,” CEO Armanino said.

“We had the opportunity to meet with dozens of leading private equity firms,” he explained. “Ultimately we concluded that Further Global would be the best partner for us based on their expertise in partnering with professional service businesses in particular, and our desire for a minority deal structure.”

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While citing Further Global’s “deep domain expertise” in financial services and business services firms, Armanino noted that this would be the PE firm’s first foray into the accounting profession: “This is their first accounting firm deal, and I think they’re only focused on this one at this time.”

An employee-owned PE firm, Further Global invests in companies in the business services and financial services industries, and has raised over $2.2 billion of capital.

Guggenheim Securities LLC served as the financial advisor and sole private placement agent to Armanino LLP, while Hunton Andrews Kurth LLP acted as its legal counsel. Further Global was advised by Pointe Advisory, with Kirkland & Ellis as legal counsel.

“Armanino ranks as high as any CPA firm in the country with the private equity community,” commented Allan Koltin, CEO of Koltin Consulting Group, who has advised Armanino for over two decades. “Their deal with Further Global fit just like a glove. They will keep control and now have the capital structure to compete on the biggest of stages.”

Internally, the Armanino partner group was unanimous in its support for the deal — and in its insistence on only selling a minority stake.

“We’ve had transparent discussions at the leadership level around not only adding an outside investor, but we knew very early on that a minority investment was the best path forward for us, and we were very excited that there was unanimous support from the entire partnership group around that decision,” Armanino said. “This structure is also going to allow the long-term owners and partners of Armanino to maintain full control over our day-to-day operations, and the proud culture that we’ve built.”

“No other firm in the Top 25 has a structure like this, and I think that’s pretty significant,” he added.

Capital plans

The goal of the deal is to give Armanino the capital it needs to take itself to a new level of growth while also addressing some of the most pressing challenges in accounting: investing in technology, pursuing inorganic growth through M&A, and attracting and retaining talent.

The firm has always been tech-forward, and recently has been a major pioneer in artificial intelligence.

“The capital will enable us to fast-track our investments in advanced technology solutions, particularly AI,” said Matt Armanino. “We’ve seen growing desire from our clients to deploy real applications for AI solutions. And while we’ve been at the forefront of automation and AI since the early days, with the development of our AI Lab a few years ago, innovative AI-driven solutions that address our clients’ most urgent challenges remain a top priority for us.”

Beyond technology investments, the firm plans to continue its aggressive M&A strategy, which has brought on 19 acquisitions since 2019.

“Those transactions have allowed us to expand our capabilities and enter into new markets and drive greater value to our clients,” said Armanino. “And we think we can accelerate that now with this capital structure that we have.”

All that M&A has brought the firm a lot of fresh talent, but no firm these days has enough, and that’s a third purpose for the new capital.

“We think there remains a lot of ripe talent across the country out there,” he said. “I think the capital will support our efforts to attract, retain, develop and reward top talent by investing in people who drive our entrepreneurial spirit here at the firm.”

The deal will allow the firm to reward top talent, for instance through equity plans that allow them to extend the firm’s ownership culture beyond the partner group that it has traditionally been restricted to.

“In many cases, for our most senior employees today, there’s not a natural mechanism to align their effort to the success of the firm to the growth of our enterprise value and how that ultimately rewards them,” explained Armanino. “And we are very excited that we have new mechanisms, and plans in place, that are going to allow us to do that very well, and effectively push down the benefits of ownership and that ownership culture to our most senior employees.”

“Finally,” he added, “speaking to our innovative culture — and that’s a big part of our brand — the capital will empower us to say ‘Yes’ more frequently to great ideas, to entrepreneurial ideas and initiatives that truly make a difference for our clients and set us apart as a leader in this industry.”

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