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Sage Copilot AI aims to pair power and simplicity for small and medium businesses

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Small and mid-size business platform Sage is already well experienced with AI, having woven it throughout their products for years, but its new generative AI Sage Copilot solution has been touted as a dramatic step forward in the company’s long term vision of simplifying accounting to make it more accessible to all. 

Aaron Harris, Sage’s chief technology officer, said that the company has long had classic AI deep learning models that perform functions users have relied on for years. These tasks often require the use of many different models working in concert, with Harris noting that invoice processing alone requires the use of 27 different models: 15 to 20 are required to read the data alone, and more are needed to perform the calculations. 

Sage Copilot coordinates between these models and acts as an interpreter between them and the human users who are requesting they perform a task. Effectively a “mouth” attached to a larger whole, the LLM works by translating the user request, usually inputted through a conversational interface, into machine language. This then goes to the various AI models on Sage’s servers, which then get to work on whatever the user asked them for, eventually sending instructions back to the LLM. The LLM reads back the machine language and implements the command or, in the case of an informational query, translates it back to human language. Harris stressed that it is not the LLM itself that does this work, referencing their well-known difficulties with math, but the other AI models that the LLM interacts with. 

“We don’t trust them to do math. There’s much better ways to do math… We’re not using the AI to do the math on the results, we’re using AI to write the [structured query language] exactly as you described,” said Harris during an interview. 

He added that, rather than being a feature of any one particular solution, Sage Copilot can be used across its products through the use of specialized “agents.” The company creates AI “agents” purpose built to do one thing really well, such as interacting with certain types of data, executing specific queries, or engaging with specific software products. Sage Copilot has access to multiple agents, each built to communicate with a different product, whether Sage Intaact, Sage HR or something else.

“The intention is that Copilot can work across the portfolio of Sage products,” he said. 

Having Copilot act as a coordinator for all the other models also means its automation capacities go far past what it had previously accomplished. Harris raised the example of processing an invoice. This act alone requires multiple steps, but many of them have already been automated in Sage, taking out much of the work. Copilot goes a step further by allowing wholesale workflow automation through coordinating among several models that each enable a different automated process. “We can now really accelerate our ability to automate with large language models, and we can use AI to do more of the orchestration. So, giving it the ability to not just process the invoice but to move it on to the approval stage, to understand after it’s approved [it needs to] move it through the payment process,” he said. 

He added that, in the future, “that invoice will have been created for you, automatically.” His team had recently conducted a hackathon where it was found Copilot can automatically generate invoices based on events happening around the user, like if it knew they were going on a job using geofencing, and act proactively. 

Harris said that certain companies today will attach their solution to a ChatGPT account and call that generative AI functionality. In contrast, developing Copilot was a meticulous process that required a lot of trial and error even before its UK release earlier this year. During this time, the development team encountered many challenges that needed to be overcome, such as teaching the model that there can be more than one kind of cash balance. 

“I got in and I asked Copilot ‘what is my cash balance?’ And Copilot said it’s at zero. And I dug around and what I learned was that Copilot inferred from my question ‘what’s my petty cash?’ It didn’t actually understand that what I was asking for was the balance of cash across my bank account,” he said. “Fast forward a month. We’ve done a lot of work to train the model the way we wanted to when you ask that question. … [Now] it’ll give you a table with your bank accounts and your balances in total. If that is what you’re asking, this is the answer.” 

Getting these kinds of interactions right was vital to ensuring Copilot was easy to use and reliable in its outputs without having to possess a lot of arcane technical knowledge. Interacting with Copilot in plain language allows people to access accounting information and perform business tasks on their own, a major component of the wider goal of making accounting more accessible to a wider base of people. 

“Generative AI and copilots, and their natural conversational interface, enables us to bring accounting outside the finance team to the rest of the business. One of the biggest blocks is getting [accountants] to approve things or to answer questions, finance teams are spending time supporting me instead of getting the books closed. With Copilot having a conversational interface, it now becomes much more natural and easy for me to approve a purchase order or to ask a question like ‘how am I trending on my travel expenses?'” Harris said. 

While Sage wants to make accounting more accessible to the layperson, he added that professionals can be excited too. The big promise, he said, is that it will free them from things they don’t want to do. He compared it to having an army of interns at one’s disposal who can take care of the numerous mundane demands that pop up throughout the day. The result, according to Harris, will be “faster and smarter decisions.” 

“Unpacking that, what we’re really saying is [this can be] how you, across the whole of the business, understand the patterns of activity in that business in real time to discover when there is a change in performance—when there’s something that can indicate an opportunity or risk—that the more strategic specialists can address in real time… We’re enabling more decisions to be made confidently,” he said. 

Harris said the name “Copilot” represents what he felt was a good bet that the term copilot would become generic, versus being permanently associated with Microsoft’s product. He said that the term has, over time, emerged as standard in a similar manner as “band-aid,” “Xerox” and “Google.” 

The large language model was released in the UK in February and is set for release in the US at the end of this year. 

Part of a larger strategy

Copilot is one component of the company’s larger product strategy to promote continuous accounting, real time assurance and continuous insights. But this, itself, is part of Sage’s overall strategy, particularly for the North American market; Mark Hickman, the managing director of North America, said Copilot is “critical to our success.” 

“As we move forward, [we want] to really be that leader, we want to be ahead of the competition when it comes to AI and how we bring that to market, into that ecosystem of 2 million customers globally and hundreds and hundreds of thousands in North America,” said Hickman. 

To this end, Sage has been busy making new alliances and deepening current ones with companies like Microsoft, Amazon and PwC. They have collaborated on technology solutions with the aim of eventually driving integration into products like Office and other platforms, as well as on distribution and implementation of said solutions. With Microsoft and Amazon in particular, Hickman said they have whole partnerships where they go to market together and close new customers. Given these companies’ focus on large enterprises, Sage’s focus on small and medium businesses has acted as a bridge to this larger community. 

“What we’ve discovered here is that [Microsoft and Amazon], they don’t really play in the small to medium businesses with the cloud. So 90% of their new customers are net new customers so they’re actually getting into new customers because they’re working with us and closing new deals to get into these accounts and … using their amazing, world class platforms and their brands to work together,” he said. 

This is especially germane as the UK-based Sage expands further into the North American market, which makes up more than 44% of the company’s global revenues already. The company is making heavy investments in this region, which include technology but also additional staff as well as new facilities. Hickman said they will be building a whole new campus in Atlanta to serve as their new base for North American operations (in addition to the office they already maintain in that city), as well as new offices in Portland and Vancouver. 

Hickman said Sage’s thinking on these new locations came as the company emerged from the pandemic lockdowns, eventually settling on what he called a “hub strategy.” Previously, the company had over 80 offices around the world, but he said many of them were small and remote. The company chose a very deliberate strategy where they would instead have large offices in each of the major markets they really invest in, with fewer small satellite offices. This has allowed them to really focus their efforts around these flagship country “hubs.” He noted that the new offices in Canada is also a reflection of this hub strategy of “really increasing the investment in the offices where we want to concentrate our growth.” 

“So the North American businesses, the US businesses, are the fastest growing [sector] with great growth, and we hope to really accelerate that growth as we move forward,” he added. 

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IRS updates procedures list for accounting method changes

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The Internal Revenue Service has released Rev. Proc. 2025-23, which updates the list of automatic procedures for taxpayer-initiated requests for changes in methods of accounting.

 An “automatic change” is a change in method of accounting for which the taxpayer is eligible under Section 5.01(1) of Rev. Proc. 2015-13 for requesting the IRS commissioner’s consent for the requested year of change.

The 430-plus pages of changes cover: gross income, commodity credit loans, trade or business expenses, bad debts, interest expense and amortizable bond premium, depreciation or amortization, research or experimental expenditures, elective expensing provisions, computer software expenditures, start-up expenditures and organizational fees, capital expenditures, and uniform capitalization methods.

Changes also cover losses, expenses and interest in transactions between related taxpayers; deferred compensation; cash-to-accrual methods of accounting; taxable years of inclusion; discounted obligations; prepaid subscription income; long-term contracts; taxable years incurred; rent; inventories (including LIFO inventories); mark-to-market accounting; bank reserves for bad debts; insurance companies; discounted unpaid losses; and REMICs.

Examples are given for many of the changes. 

Rev. Proc. 2025-23 was slated to be in IRB 2025-24 dated June 9.

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Pricing lessons: What the winners do differently

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Many CPA firms struggle to raise pricing and remove problematic clients. It may get brushed off as “no big deal,” but ignoring pricing and client mix harms the firm in significant ways: less revenue equals less growth and lower ability to pay staff well, lower profits for partners or capital to reinvest in the business, and unwieldy clients who burn out staff and partners alike for a paltry financial return.

After helping many firms in this area during strategic planning and retreats, here’s what I’ve seen the successful ones do.

Don’t shock the system

When we talk about increasing prices, many partners imagine an abrupt, across-the-board 20% fee increase and clients pouring out the doors as a result. I’ve seen firms be very successful using an incremental and client-specific approach. Segment your client list by service line and total fees. Consider the 80/20 rule: how many clients do you need to generate 80% of your revenue? It’s likely not as many as you think. Then have each partner recommend appropriate pricing adjustments for each client. If there’s a big gap between current fees and market rates, it may take a few years to get there (unless you’re OK with the possibility of losing them, which sometimes is advisable). Some clients may need only a 5% bump to get to market; some may need 150%. Do what makes sense for each client and total firm revenue.

Communication is the key

Often, partners relax once they grasp the reasons why pricing or client acceptance criteria need to improve: staffing crisis, wage increases, tech costs going up, inflation, undercharged for years, not enough hours to serve all the clients well, etc. Pull a Wall Street Journal article on any given day about the accounting industry, and you’ll have another reason your firm needs to evolve. Then explain that to your clients with empathy and sincerity. Almost all of them will understand.

You can keep some personal favorite clients

Many partners get skittish about changing pricing and client acceptance because they have a stable of long-time clients who have been way under market for years but have strong sentimental value. Whoever they are for you, you are allowed to keep them on one condition: accept that they may not be 20% (or some other meaningful amount) of your total book of business. I have great hope for the accounting industry because of the great care I’ve seen partners take of their clients. We don’t want to diminish that. We do want to run a sustainable business.

You’re worth it and so is your staff

Firms have reported gleeful results when they let their staff give input on clients. The staff know who the ungrateful, late, messy clients are. They also know the appreciative, clean, fun-to-work-with clients. It’s uncanny how some of the lowest-profit clients often fall into the first category. Economics aside, when you protect your staff from problematic clients through higher pricing (enough budget to do quality work) or firing clients who can’t work well with the firm, you send a strong message that you care. The same goes for partners. Firms that have a lot of A and B clients and aren’t afraid to shape up or ship out their lowest clients seem to have much higher enjoyment and peace of mind at work. Your team works hard for your clients, and the reciprocity of fair fees and behavior from them is only right.

If you want to join the firms that are finding success in fees and client mix, here are four ways to start:

1. Grade your clients: Rank them A through F, based on criteria like total fees, realization, growth potential, and how fun or hard it is to work with them.

2. Segment the list: Analyze your now graded client list. Who needs more attention? Who needs to get off the bus?

3. Make an action plan that is specific to each client: Granularity is your friend. By partner, by client, make next steps to improve fees or client behavior to meet current standards.

4. Keep meeting about it regularly: This is the most important step! Just making a list doesn’t count. Partners who regularly meet and act on their lists make big progress.

I know the journey can be uncomfortable, but firms on the other side prove it’s well worth it. Good luck!

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Senate plans to deliver Trump-backed tip, overtime tax breaks

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Senate Majority Leader John Thune said Republicans in his chamber expect to deliver on President Donald Trump’s campaign promises to exempt tips, overtime pay, Social Security and auto loan interest from taxes.

“I think that the president as you know campaigned hard on no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, Social Security, interest on car loans — those were all things that are priorities for the administration and they were addressed in the House bill and I expect they will be in the Senate as well,” Thune told reporters.

The House bill, in lieu of a direct tax cut on Social Security, which would violate Senate budget rules, provided a $4,000 bonus deduction for per taxpayer age 65 and older with incomes up to $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for married couples. The House provisions on tips, overtime, the elderly and car loans would all expire in 2029.

Thune’s comments come as Senate negotiators tweak the House-passed version of Trump’s giant tax package ahead of a self-imposed deadline to pass the measure before the July 4th holiday, with Thune saying Tuesday the Senate is very close to finishing its draft of the legislation. 

Earlier Tuesday, House Ways and Means Chair Jason Smith, whose committee is responsible for tax legislation, warned that any Senate version of the tax package that doesn’t include the tips and overtime breaks would be “dead on arrival” in the House.

Several Republican senators including Thom Tillis of North Carolina and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina have expressed skepticism about the cost and economic wisdom of including the tax exemptions on tips and overtime pay. Senators have instead called for funds to be used to make temporary business tax breaks permanent.

Such a change would be a “no go” for House Republicans, Smith told Bloomberg TV. 

The Senate is now considering the massive tax and spending package after it passed the House by a single vote last month. If the Senate changes the legislation, the House must approve the revised version.

Senator Josh Hawley, a populist Republican, said Trump told him Tuesday morning that tax-exempt tips and overtime, as well as a tax cut for the elderly, are the most important provisions in the bill. 

House Speaker Mike Johnson also has urged senators not to remove or scale back provisions in the legislation that exempt tips and overtime pay from income tax through 2028.

“This is an important promise for us to keep,” Johnson told reporters earlier Tuesday.

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