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Sage Copilot AI aims to pair power and simplicity for small and medium businesses

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Small and mid-size business platform Sage is already well experienced with AI, having woven it throughout their products for years, but its new generative AI Sage Copilot solution has been touted as a dramatic step forward in the company’s long term vision of simplifying accounting to make it more accessible to all. 

Aaron Harris, Sage’s chief technology officer, said that the company has long had classic AI deep learning models that perform functions users have relied on for years. These tasks often require the use of many different models working in concert, with Harris noting that invoice processing alone requires the use of 27 different models: 15 to 20 are required to read the data alone, and more are needed to perform the calculations. 

Sage Copilot coordinates between these models and acts as an interpreter between them and the human users who are requesting they perform a task. Effectively a “mouth” attached to a larger whole, the LLM works by translating the user request, usually inputted through a conversational interface, into machine language. This then goes to the various AI models on Sage’s servers, which then get to work on whatever the user asked them for, eventually sending instructions back to the LLM. The LLM reads back the machine language and implements the command or, in the case of an informational query, translates it back to human language. Harris stressed that it is not the LLM itself that does this work, referencing their well-known difficulties with math, but the other AI models that the LLM interacts with. 

“We don’t trust them to do math. There’s much better ways to do math… We’re not using the AI to do the math on the results, we’re using AI to write the [structured query language] exactly as you described,” said Harris during an interview. 

He added that, rather than being a feature of any one particular solution, Sage Copilot can be used across its products through the use of specialized “agents.” The company creates AI “agents” purpose built to do one thing really well, such as interacting with certain types of data, executing specific queries, or engaging with specific software products. Sage Copilot has access to multiple agents, each built to communicate with a different product, whether Sage Intaact, Sage HR or something else.

“The intention is that Copilot can work across the portfolio of Sage products,” he said. 

Having Copilot act as a coordinator for all the other models also means its automation capacities go far past what it had previously accomplished. Harris raised the example of processing an invoice. This act alone requires multiple steps, but many of them have already been automated in Sage, taking out much of the work. Copilot goes a step further by allowing wholesale workflow automation through coordinating among several models that each enable a different automated process. “We can now really accelerate our ability to automate with large language models, and we can use AI to do more of the orchestration. So, giving it the ability to not just process the invoice but to move it on to the approval stage, to understand after it’s approved [it needs to] move it through the payment process,” he said. 

He added that, in the future, “that invoice will have been created for you, automatically.” His team had recently conducted a hackathon where it was found Copilot can automatically generate invoices based on events happening around the user, like if it knew they were going on a job using geofencing, and act proactively. 

Harris said that certain companies today will attach their solution to a ChatGPT account and call that generative AI functionality. In contrast, developing Copilot was a meticulous process that required a lot of trial and error even before its UK release earlier this year. During this time, the development team encountered many challenges that needed to be overcome, such as teaching the model that there can be more than one kind of cash balance. 

“I got in and I asked Copilot ‘what is my cash balance?’ And Copilot said it’s at zero. And I dug around and what I learned was that Copilot inferred from my question ‘what’s my petty cash?’ It didn’t actually understand that what I was asking for was the balance of cash across my bank account,” he said. “Fast forward a month. We’ve done a lot of work to train the model the way we wanted to when you ask that question. … [Now] it’ll give you a table with your bank accounts and your balances in total. If that is what you’re asking, this is the answer.” 

Getting these kinds of interactions right was vital to ensuring Copilot was easy to use and reliable in its outputs without having to possess a lot of arcane technical knowledge. Interacting with Copilot in plain language allows people to access accounting information and perform business tasks on their own, a major component of the wider goal of making accounting more accessible to a wider base of people. 

“Generative AI and copilots, and their natural conversational interface, enables us to bring accounting outside the finance team to the rest of the business. One of the biggest blocks is getting [accountants] to approve things or to answer questions, finance teams are spending time supporting me instead of getting the books closed. With Copilot having a conversational interface, it now becomes much more natural and easy for me to approve a purchase order or to ask a question like ‘how am I trending on my travel expenses?'” Harris said. 

While Sage wants to make accounting more accessible to the layperson, he added that professionals can be excited too. The big promise, he said, is that it will free them from things they don’t want to do. He compared it to having an army of interns at one’s disposal who can take care of the numerous mundane demands that pop up throughout the day. The result, according to Harris, will be “faster and smarter decisions.” 

“Unpacking that, what we’re really saying is [this can be] how you, across the whole of the business, understand the patterns of activity in that business in real time to discover when there is a change in performance—when there’s something that can indicate an opportunity or risk—that the more strategic specialists can address in real time… We’re enabling more decisions to be made confidently,” he said. 

Harris said the name “Copilot” represents what he felt was a good bet that the term copilot would become generic, versus being permanently associated with Microsoft’s product. He said that the term has, over time, emerged as standard in a similar manner as “band-aid,” “Xerox” and “Google.” 

The large language model was released in the UK in February and is set for release in the US at the end of this year. 

Part of a larger strategy

Copilot is one component of the company’s larger product strategy to promote continuous accounting, real time assurance and continuous insights. But this, itself, is part of Sage’s overall strategy, particularly for the North American market; Mark Hickman, the managing director of North America, said Copilot is “critical to our success.” 

“As we move forward, [we want] to really be that leader, we want to be ahead of the competition when it comes to AI and how we bring that to market, into that ecosystem of 2 million customers globally and hundreds and hundreds of thousands in North America,” said Hickman. 

To this end, Sage has been busy making new alliances and deepening current ones with companies like Microsoft, Amazon and PwC. They have collaborated on technology solutions with the aim of eventually driving integration into products like Office and other platforms, as well as on distribution and implementation of said solutions. With Microsoft and Amazon in particular, Hickman said they have whole partnerships where they go to market together and close new customers. Given these companies’ focus on large enterprises, Sage’s focus on small and medium businesses has acted as a bridge to this larger community. 

“What we’ve discovered here is that [Microsoft and Amazon], they don’t really play in the small to medium businesses with the cloud. So 90% of their new customers are net new customers so they’re actually getting into new customers because they’re working with us and closing new deals to get into these accounts and … using their amazing, world class platforms and their brands to work together,” he said. 

This is especially germane as the UK-based Sage expands further into the North American market, which makes up more than 44% of the company’s global revenues already. The company is making heavy investments in this region, which include technology but also additional staff as well as new facilities. Hickman said they will be building a whole new campus in Atlanta to serve as their new base for North American operations (in addition to the office they already maintain in that city), as well as new offices in Portland and Vancouver. 

Hickman said Sage’s thinking on these new locations came as the company emerged from the pandemic lockdowns, eventually settling on what he called a “hub strategy.” Previously, the company had over 80 offices around the world, but he said many of them were small and remote. The company chose a very deliberate strategy where they would instead have large offices in each of the major markets they really invest in, with fewer small satellite offices. This has allowed them to really focus their efforts around these flagship country “hubs.” He noted that the new offices in Canada is also a reflection of this hub strategy of “really increasing the investment in the offices where we want to concentrate our growth.” 

“So the North American businesses, the US businesses, are the fastest growing [sector] with great growth, and we hope to really accelerate that growth as we move forward,” he added. 

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GASB issues guidance on capital asset disclosures

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The Governmental Accounting Standards Board issued guidance today that will require separate disclosures for certain types of capital assets for the purposes of note disclosures.

GASB Statement No. 104, Disclosure of Certain Capital Assets, also establishes requirements and additional disclosures for capital assets held for sale. 

The statement requires certain types of assets to be disclosed separately in the note disclosures about capital assets. The intent is to allow users to make better informed decisions and to evaluate accountability. The requirements are effective for fiscal years beginning after June 15, 2025, and all reporting periods thereafter, though earlier application is encouraged.

The guidance requires separate disclosures for four types of capital assets:

  1. Lease assets reported under Statement 87, by major class of underlying asset;
  2. Intangible right-to-use assets recognized by an operator under Statement 94, by major class of underlying asset;
  3. Subscription assets reported under Statement 96; and,
  4. Intangible assets other than those listed in items 1-3, by major class of asset.

Under the guidance, a capital asset is a capital asset held for sale if the government has decided to pursue the sale of the asset, and it is probable the sale will be finalized within a year of the financial statement date. A government should disclose the historical cost and accumulated depreciation of capital assets held for sale, by major class of asset.

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On the move: RRBB hires tax partner

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Suha Uddin was hired as a tax partner at RRBB Advisors, Somerset. 

Sax, Paterson, announced that its annual run/walk event SAX 4 Miler, supporting the Child Life Department at St. Joseph’s Children’s Hospital in Paterson, has achieved $1 million in total funds raised since its inception in 2012.    

Withum, Princeton, rolled out a new outsourcing service offering as part of its sustainability and ESG practice designed to help companies comply with the European Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive, the mandate requires reporting of detailed sustainability performance as it pertains to the European Sustainability Reporting Standards , effective January 2023.

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Armanino takes on minority investment from Further Global

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Top 25 Firm Armanino LLP has taken on a strategic minority investment from private equity firm Further Global Capital Management.

The deal, which closed today, is the latest in the series of investments by private equity in large accounting firms that began in 2021 — but with a key difference, Armanino CEO Matt Armanino told Accounting Today.

“What’s maybe the punchline here — what’s really unique, I think — is that we wanted to focus on a minority investment that allowed us to retain not just operational control of the business, but ownership control of the business,” he said. “Those are some of the guiding principles that we’ve been thinking about over the last number of years, and we felt like if we could accomplish those things strategically with the right partner, it would really be just a home run, and that’s where we think we’ve landed.”

As is common with CPA firms taking on private equity investment, Armanino LLP will restructure to an alternative practice structure, splitting into two independently owned and governed professional-services entities: Armanino LLP, a licensed CPA firm wholly owned by individual CPAs, will provide attest services to clients, and Armanino Advisory LLC, a consulting and advisory firm, will perform non-attest services.

Inside the deal

As have many large firms, Armanino LLP had been looking at private equity for some time.

“We’ve been analyzing the PE trend over the last few years and our discussions with Further Global actually began several years ago, and along the way we confirmed our initial inclination that Further Global would be a great partner for us,” CEO Armanino said.

“We had the opportunity to meet with dozens of leading private equity firms,” he explained. “Ultimately we concluded that Further Global would be the best partner for us based on their expertise in partnering with professional service businesses in particular, and our desire for a minority deal structure.”

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While citing Further Global’s “deep domain expertise” in financial services and business services firms, Armanino noted that this would be the PE firm’s first foray into the accounting profession: “This is their first accounting firm deal, and I think they’re only focused on this one at this time.”

An employee-owned PE firm, Further Global invests in companies in the business services and financial services industries, and has raised over $2.2 billion of capital.

Guggenheim Securities LLC served as the financial advisor and sole private placement agent to Armanino LLP, while Hunton Andrews Kurth LLP acted as its legal counsel. Further Global was advised by Pointe Advisory, with Kirkland & Ellis as legal counsel.

“Armanino ranks as high as any CPA firm in the country with the private equity community,” commented Allan Koltin, CEO of Koltin Consulting Group, who has advised Armanino for over two decades. “Their deal with Further Global fit just like a glove. They will keep control and now have the capital structure to compete on the biggest of stages.”

Internally, the Armanino partner group was unanimous in its support for the deal — and in its insistence on only selling a minority stake.

“We’ve had transparent discussions at the leadership level around not only adding an outside investor, but we knew very early on that a minority investment was the best path forward for us, and we were very excited that there was unanimous support from the entire partnership group around that decision,” Armanino said. “This structure is also going to allow the long-term owners and partners of Armanino to maintain full control over our day-to-day operations, and the proud culture that we’ve built.”

“No other firm in the Top 25 has a structure like this, and I think that’s pretty significant,” he added.

Capital plans

The goal of the deal is to give Armanino the capital it needs to take itself to a new level of growth while also addressing some of the most pressing challenges in accounting: investing in technology, pursuing inorganic growth through M&A, and attracting and retaining talent.

The firm has always been tech-forward, and recently has been a major pioneer in artificial intelligence.

“The capital will enable us to fast-track our investments in advanced technology solutions, particularly AI,” said Matt Armanino. “We’ve seen growing desire from our clients to deploy real applications for AI solutions. And while we’ve been at the forefront of automation and AI since the early days, with the development of our AI Lab a few years ago, innovative AI-driven solutions that address our clients’ most urgent challenges remain a top priority for us.”

Beyond technology investments, the firm plans to continue its aggressive M&A strategy, which has brought on 19 acquisitions since 2019.

“Those transactions have allowed us to expand our capabilities and enter into new markets and drive greater value to our clients,” said Armanino. “And we think we can accelerate that now with this capital structure that we have.”

All that M&A has brought the firm a lot of fresh talent, but no firm these days has enough, and that’s a third purpose for the new capital.

“We think there remains a lot of ripe talent across the country out there,” he said. “I think the capital will support our efforts to attract, retain, develop and reward top talent by investing in people who drive our entrepreneurial spirit here at the firm.”

The deal will allow the firm to reward top talent, for instance through equity plans that allow them to extend the firm’s ownership culture beyond the partner group that it has traditionally been restricted to.

“In many cases, for our most senior employees today, there’s not a natural mechanism to align their effort to the success of the firm to the growth of our enterprise value and how that ultimately rewards them,” explained Armanino. “And we are very excited that we have new mechanisms, and plans in place, that are going to allow us to do that very well, and effectively push down the benefits of ownership and that ownership culture to our most senior employees.”

“Finally,” he added, “speaking to our innovative culture — and that’s a big part of our brand — the capital will empower us to say ‘Yes’ more frequently to great ideas, to entrepreneurial ideas and initiatives that truly make a difference for our clients and set us apart as a leader in this industry.”

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