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Mohamed El-Erian says Trump tariffs risk US recession

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Mohamed Aly El-Erian, chief economic advisor for Allianz SE. 

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President Donald Trump’s extensive raft of import tariffs are putting the U.S. economy at risk of recession, Allianz’s Chief Economic Advisor Mohamed El-Erian warned on Friday.

He added that Trump’s swathe of so-called reciprocal tariffs could have a significant effect on the global economy.

“You’ve had a major repricing of growth prospects, with a recession in the U.S. going up to 50% probability, you’ve seen an increase in inflation expectations, up to 3.5%,” he told CNBC’s Silvia Amaro on the sidelines of the Ambrosetti Forum in Cernobbio, Italy.

“I don’t think [a U.S. recession] is inevitable because the structure of the economy is so strong, but the risk has become uncomfortably high.”

El-Erian also warned that markets were underestimating the inflation impact of the tariffs regime.

“The first reaction has been concerns about growth. We haven’t had two other reactions yet: what will happen to growth in other countries, and that makes a question mark on whether the dollar weakness will continue, and then what does the [Federal Reserve] do?” he questioned.

“I think if we’re lucky we’ll get one rate cut, not four, and it wouldn’t surprise me if we get none,” El-Erian added.

“If it’s a normal Fed — and I say this qualification with a lot of emphasis, because this has not been a normal Fed — we would unlikely to get even one rate cut.”

This developing story is being updated.

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Trump says tariffs will accelerate reshoring, but experts say it’s not that easy

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President Donald Trump may hope his tariffs jump-start a renaissance in manufacturing in the United States, but the reality is not so simple, according to experts.

The president announced sweeping tariffs Wednesday, including a baseline 10% levy across the board on all imports. He also targeted specific countries with steep tariffs, such as 34% on China, 20% on the European Union and 46% on Taiwan.

Trump said “jobs and factories will come roaring back.”

“We will supercharge our domestic industrial base, we will pry open foreign markets and break down foreign trade barriers and ultimately more production at home will mean stronger competition and lower prices for consumers,” he said during his news conference.

The U.S. has lost about 6 million jobs over the last four or five decades as companies moved operations overseas, largely because business could be done cheaper elsewhere, said Harry Moser, president of the nonprofit Reshoring Initiative.

He said the tariffs are a good start to overcoming that problem but that dealing with a strong dollar and building up the workforce is the best solution.

Moser said he would have preferred lower levies than those Trump announced.

“Smaller would be easier to defend, but still enough to drive reshoring and FDI [foreign direct investment] in excess of our ability to build and staff factories,” he said.

He said he expects Trump’s initial salvos to result in negotiations.

“As long as he convinces the other countries that he will keep attacking the problem until it’s solved, then they will come forward and maybe let their currency go up a little bit,” Moser said. “Maybe they’ll lower their tariff barriers to our products. Maybe they’ll encourage their companies to put factories here in the United States.”

Businesses expected to ‘proceed cautiously’

Still, there are a number of issues to overcome to bring companies back to the United States, including uncertainty around the tariffs and how long they will stay in place, experts said.

“Given the unpredictable nature of the path forward and the long lead times to build industrial capacity, we expect most businesses to proceed cautiously following this announcement,” Edward Mills, Raymond James’ Washington policy analyst, said in a note Wednesday. “New capacity can be added where feasible, but without certainty on longer-term policy, larger investments are more difficult.”

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“These are investments, and as a businessman you’ve got to justify them and rationalize it,” said Panos Kouvelis, professor of supply chain, operations and technology at Washington University in St. Louis. “If there’s significant uncertainty, you might make some investments, but rather conservative, because you would like to see how it’s going to play out.”

Kouvelis’ research on Trump’s 2018 targeted tariffs found that they did not have a big impact on reshoring or the return of jobs to the U.S. He said there was a negative effect for manufacturers, who had to pay more for raw materials, with reduced demand and capacity in some cases. Finished goods was a mixed story, depending on demand, he said.

The latest levies are seen as “fluid and fickle” because they are based on executive orders from the president and were not done through Congress, said Christopher Tang, distinguished professor at the UCLA Anderson School of Management.

Unless we solve the crisis of confidence, the potential investments, the announced investments will not happen at a fast pace. It will slow down.

Manish Kabra

Societe Generale’s head of U.S. equity strategy

Rushing reshoring could be ‘dangerous’

A lot needs to happen before manufacturing can really ramp back up again in the U.S., experts said.

“The United States is not ready to reshore. We don’t have the infrastructure, we don’t have enough workers, and also, we need to examine how many Americans are willing to work in the factory,” Tang said. “If you rush it, it could be rather risky and dangerous.”

He said he expects some companies to return as a result of Trump’s tariffs but that there are still a lot of barriers for many. Executives are under pressure to show short-term results in quarterly earnings, he said, and managing an American workforce can be complicated.

“There’s so many regulations, so many laws, and also the cost is quite high, so the incentive for them to come back is not high,” Tang said.

What could be reshored

Companies have announced investments worth $1.4 trillion since the election, according to Societe Generale’s Kabra. That adds up to about 200,000 new jobs, he said.

Hyundai tops the list with its $21 billion dollar investment in U.S. facilities, including a $5.8 billion plant in Louisiana.

Automobile makers are likely among the industries that will reshore, experts said. Trump imposed a 25% tariff on imported cars and has also vowed to tax key auto parts.

Manufacturers of gas-powered cars will have to weigh their options, since they already have a very streamlined supply chain, said University of Washington’s Kouvelis.

“The gas-powered car industry is in trouble with hard-to-adjust supply chains and not enough incentive to do it,” he said.

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Electric vehicles are a different story, because they have fewer parts, the battery being the most important, so those companies are more likely to shift operations, he said.

“Everybody understands the U.S. market is lucrative to lose, and the competitors with an advantage [such as Chinese companies] more or less are kept out,” Kouvelis said.

Snyder also said that EVs are among those likely to come to the U.S., but because they will need more capacity. His thesis is that industries that need to expand — rather than close up shop in another country and move — will be the ones that return to the U.S. That includes industrial equipment and semiconductors, he said.

While semiconductors and pharmaceuticals were exempt from the tariffs, they may still be targeted at a later date. Experts said they expect both industries to reshore.

Semiconductor manufacturers got the incentive to return after Congress passed the CHIPS Act in 2022, which provided financial assistance and tax credits to those building and expanding facilities nationally. The computer and electronic products industry saw the most reshoring jobs announced in 2024, according to the Reshoring Initiative.

“Those are high tech, high-end technology and a lot of automation. They don’t need that many workers,” said Tang.

With pharma companies, just some of the supply chain may come back, Kouvelis said.

“The question is, where are you going to apply the tariff? Will you apply to the final or to the chemicals? Because right now, you want the chemicals and the active ingredients to be sourced from China,” Kouvelis said.

Formulation and packaging, however, can be done in the U.S., if that’s enough to avoid tariffs, he said.

“If you want them to bring all of the supply chain, you got to be very aggressive on how you apply tariffs on everything in the supply chain,” Kouvelis said.

Some pharma companies, including Eli Lilly and Johnson & Johnson, already began expanding in the U.S. before Trump took office.

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President Donald Trump says Fed Chair Powell should cut interest rates and ‘stop playing politics’

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President Donald Trump on Friday called for Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell to cut interest rates, even as his tariff blitz roiled markets and raised fears of a rebound in inflation.

“This would be a PERFECT time for Fed Chairman Jerome Powell to cut Interest Rates. He is always ‘late,’ but he could now change his image, and quickly,” Trump said in a post on Truth Social. “Energy prices are down, Interest Rates are down, Inflation is down, even Eggs are down 69%, and Jobs are UP, all within two months – A BIG WIN for America. CUT INTEREST RATES, JEROME, AND STOP PLAYING POLITICS!”

Trump’s post comes as global equity markets are selling off sharply. The president’s new tariff policy, unveiled on Wednesday, has raised concerns about a global economic slowdown.

The new trade policies may also be a barrier that keep the Federal Reserve from cutting. The central bank has paused its rate cuts in recent meetings, in part because progress on reducing inflation appeared to have plateaued. The new tariffs could lead to a widespread rise in prices, at least temporarily, that further complicates the inflation picture.

On Friday, Powell told business journalists in Arlington, Va., that the Fed was “well positioned to wait for greater clarity” before making changes like rate cuts.

Market-based interest rates have already fallen sharply this week, with the 10-year U.S. Treasury yield now below 4%. Treasury yields often fall when investors are worried about a potential recession.

Movement in the Fed funds futures market implies that traders now expect at least four rate cuts of 0.25 percentage points from the central bank this year, according to the CME’s FedWatch tool. At a meeting last month, central bankers projected just two rate cuts.

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