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Tech integration after a merger both an art and science says firm leaders.

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The process of merging one accounting practice into another, larger firm will always raise questions, not the least of which is how, and to what degree, they will integrate their technology. This, in turn, raises a host of other questions for both acquirer and acquiree — and no matter how they decide to answer these questions, though, working through them is always a process. 

Firms with significant experience in M&A will point to a range of issues that need to be addressed during integration, but the most common are these:

  • Data management;
  • Cybersecurity;
  • IT culture; and,
  • Timing and cost.

Data conversions a challenge

One of the biggest challenges is data management, something that often comes up in the acquisition process. Scott MacChesney, vice president of integration for Top 25 Firm Citrin Cooperman, said it’s important to extract client data to ensure a smooth transition.

“The firms we bring in tend to have inconsistent client data systems or no [client relations manager] at all, or the way they manage client data is partially manual and partially through email,” he said, adding that this is so important because “that is one of the key things to make sure we can still service clients well on Day 1 and employees can still understand and see reports on their clients on Day 1,” he said. 

Data migration and transfer

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Beyond just extracting the data itself is converting it to the firm’s standards, which V. Allen Smith — chief information officer for Top 10 Firm Baker Tilly— said goes past just file formats and into basic definitions, which he said are not as simple as they seem.

“How do you define a client? How do you define a project? How do you define an engagement? … If you’re serving a multinational [for instance], is each legal entity a client, or do you have a parent-child client relationship? What systems generate the unique client ID? Is it your audit system, your assurance system, your tax system, your practice management system? It’s all about coming up with those definitions. Based on that, the 0s and 1s take care of themselves,” he said. 

Firms handle this through both automated and manual processes. Mike Giuli, chief information officer at Top 25 Firm Cherry Bekaert, said their firm uses spreadsheet-based templates for determining key pieces of information that they send to the other firm to fill out. While these have been used effectively for years, he noted that there is a certain granularity that can be lost in the process, which is why they are also developing what he called an “ingestion engine” that can take in raw data for processing.

“So now what we’re doing is we’re building [in] our data lake a landing pad so we can bring in the raw data and do the transformation on our side versus through spreadsheets. … Over the last year we’ve identified the need for this and so we’re trying to create an easier automated and repeatable way that will maximize the time and productivity [improvements] for the firm,” he said. 

John Roman, chief information officer of Top 50 Firm The Bonadio Group, said his firm employs a combination of both manual and automated processes to input and process the necessary data. He noted that it’s important that everyone be on the same systems, whether that’s practice management systems, tax prep systems, or even email systems. “Massaging” all this data to fit with their own platforms tends to be a time-consuming task. 

“We use a combination of internal resources as well as our software providers that we use to help us. A good majority of the times we are using specific software scripts that take the data and format it in a way that can get into our systems. That is the automated part. The manual part, though, is someone still needs to validate the data [to check if it was] converted correctly,” he said. 

Roman noted, though, that much of this process begins with a questionnaire that helps them understand what data even needs to be migrated in the first place. And sometimes firms tell them they only need the old data for historical purposes and that they’ll enter data into Bonadio’s systems from that day on.

Cybersecurity and governance

Cybersecurity is another major part of the mergers and acquisitions process. Different firms can have different levels of risk tolerance, which informs their individual policies and programs. But while the particulars may vary, acquiring firms generally expect the merged-in firm to adhere to their own cybersecurity standards and procedures. 

“On Day 1, everyone adheres to our information security policies and procedures. We have certain standards in place that protect both client and employee data and before we bring data in from our merged-in firms, we make sure it is fully scanned and malware free. And we have certain technology controls in place that the merged-in firm would need to follow,” said Roman from Bonadio. “It is never, ‘Well, you can keep doing your own thing from an infosec perspective’ — they have to use our procedure and technical controls.” 

Cybersecurity collaboration

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MacChesney from Citrin Cooperman said they assess cybersecurity risks for incoming firms the same way they assess it for new clients, noting, “We don’t cut corners, we really implement the playbook.” While he suggested that cybersecurity alignment is more of an ongoing conversation, there is still the general expectation that the incoming firm will adhere to certain expectations and policies. 

“The changes are more about communicating to the income firm what the expectations in our environment are, and what the needs of our firm are, to be comfortable with the transaction. That is what it really comes down to, [cutting down on] surprises after we close. We communicate as early and as often as possible,” he said. 

Similarly, while Baker Tilly’s Smith said it’s more about having a conversation to see where the firms align on risk tolerance, ultimately there is expected to be an alignment within the combined firm, as it does no good to have everyone on different systems. 

“We’ll take this combination as an opportunity to address those kinds of areas where you might be misaligned, like how you use multifactor authentication. To the degree where the smaller firm is maturity-wise … These combinations are a great opportunity to get into alignment and — again, it’s not on our firm or their firm but the new firm, the combined firm — once you get that, we’ve all agreed this is what we’ll be doing, now the discussion can be when do we do it? Do we do it on Day 1? Is that something we’ll do on Day 180? I would say some are Day 1 and some don’t have to be,” he said.

This goes beyond just what tools are used, however. Cherry Bekaert’s Giuli said that while many things are negotiable with the new firm, compliance and data management standards are “one of the non-negotiables.” For instance, he said new firms need to adhere to Cherry Bekaert’s own data retention policies. Some firms, he said, don’t have one at all, and might have emails going back 20 years (versus the one year his firm requires).

“So it really becomes a change management exercise and this is one of the things where we put a lens on what people will need to do differently tomorrow versus today. As you look at acquisitions, every one of them is different, so [it’s important] to understand what our rules and our policies are going in and saying, ‘Here is what you need to adhere to’ and understand where we are today and how we help them move to make sure they’re complying with our policies,” he said, adding at a different point that this also includes security policies like ensuring everything is firewalled. 

IT cultures

Another technology challenge in the merger process has nothing to do with the technology itself but, rather, the culture behind it. Different firms have different cultures overall, and this includes their IT culture as well. Some firms have one big, centralized team while others have several smaller specialized ones; some firms cloister their IT people from the other professionals while others embed them directly into teams; some are thought of as mainly troubleshooters and support, while others take a more strategic role.

Managing this issue is mainly an exercise in diplomacy, in particular being open and transparent and not demanding everything change immediately. Bonadio Group’s Roman said everyone always has lots of questions when they’re merged in, and that includes the IT team. Taking care to answer these questions and being open about what those answers mean can go a long way in reducing the anxiety and stress that might come with an acquisition. 

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“Human nature is people have questions: How will this affect me, how will I support my users, how do I fit into this new group? So we spend a lot of time pre-merger working with them to integrate them with our own IT team. … so they feel part of the team,” he said. 

Another common point was how important it is to recognize what makes a particular team unique and to not bulldoze over that in the quest to assimilate their culture. Smith, from Baker Tilly, notes that each firm is “unique and special” and stressed he does not mean this in a feel-good personal sense but in a pragmatic one. 

“Every organization we have ever combined with, their IT team did something better than our IT team, regardless of size. So how can we bring that learning into this new combined organization and have that be in the culture?” he said, noting that this makes it difficult to talk about a unitary IT culture, as it changes with every firm they merge in.

While Giuli, from Cherry Bekaert, put a little more emphasis on his firm’s own culture, like Smith he noted that every acquisition brings new skills and competencies into the firm, and IT is no exception. Recognizing that and working it into their own procedures is what helps bring teams together. 

“You’ve got to understand the talents firms have and how they all fit together. You also need to know it’s sometimes an evolution — you can’t assume everything will work smooth on Day 1. You try your best, you constantly figure out ways of working in the culture to bring the teams together. You may get talent you didn’t have before, so it may result in the creation of new capacities you didn’t have before, by virtue of the people in play,” he said. 

MacChesney from Citrin Cooperman, described a similar approach and emphasized that it’s important to communicate that you’re there to amplify what already makes them special, not squash it beneath your feet. He said there’s a general acceptance of a firm’s “quirks” and his firm tries to maintain that even as they’re merged in. He said they don’t want them to lose whatever ethos or culture made them an attractive buy in the first place.

“It’s my job to make sure that their voices are heard, that those cultural nuances are identified, and that when we do implement change, we explain the why behind stuff, and that we also understand it’s a two-way street with the why. I need to understand why they do something and they need to understand why we might want it to change, and that is how you build that understanding. So we can definitely migrate or bring on a firm and fully integrate it into our firm, and then still have their own unique way of doing things or their own unique kind of subgroup cultures,” he said. 

Timing and cost 

While declining to share specific total figures, the firms we spoke to generally agreed that aligning with a merged-in firm on a technology level is not free. Beyond the technical and cultural considerations are also serious material expenses. 

MacChesney from Citrin Cooperman said, in fact, that is probably the most expensive aspect of the process, as it involves bringing in new devices, which in turn necessitates adding layers of infrastructure and security. He added that, depending on the systems they want to integrate into their main tech stack, there may even be a need for software developers to craft their own custom application programming interfaces, which could take additional time and money. One of the main ways they control these expenses is by handling things through an in-house dedicated team versus hiring consultants or outsourced talent. 

“We know what our infrastructure can do and are fully tied into our IT environment as subject matter experts. That, to me, is the biggest driver in cost reduction on the tech side. These people are professionals, they know the questions to ask and the things to look for, and I’m not saying we’re perfect, but they at least know the scary things to look out for on the highway,” he said. When asked for an example of a “scary thing,” he mentioned disaster recovery, saying that many smaller firms do not have “the capital or robust IT environment” to support it, and so the team makes sure to put that in place if it’s missing. 

He also noted that tech expenses aren’t “taking our breath away or making us shy away from the transactions we’ve done,” noting that if it the costs were very significant, the firm likely would not have done 20-plus deals over the years. 

As far as how long it takes, he said 90-100 days “is probably par for the course.”

Bonadio Group’s Roman said that at his own firm most of the cost is additional licenses. For instance, after merging in a smaller firm, he might suddenly need to budget for 25 additional Microsoft 360 licenses. Beyond that, they might also need to buy more cloud servers or laptops. 

As far as timeframe goes, he said six to eight months is typical for a larger firm, with the vast majority of the work coming in the final two months. 

“So, for the first six to eight months, let’s plan and work closely with their IT team, and start going over equipment. In the last six to eight weeks, we do a ton of work. We start with data migration, mapping data fields from one system to the next,” he said, adding that for a smaller firm the whole process takes about six to eight weeks total. 

Meanwhile, Baker Tilly’s Smith said he doesn’t really view these things as costs so much as investments — pricy investments, to be sure, but investments made to improve performance and increase cohesion in the now-combined entity. 

“For example, in every combination we’ve done over 15 years, we purchase brand-new end user systems for everyone. You’d say, OK, if you do a combination with 1,000 people and computers cost $2,000 that is a big number. But from our perspective, it is about [providing] something new, something tangible, ‘Wow I joined this organization and now I get this new thing!’ That really resonates. But we don’t view it as a cost. We view it as if we had 2,000 people or 100 people or 20 people join the organization off the street, what would they get? They’d get a new computer. So it’s a difference in perspective,” he said. “We don’t view it as part of the transaction. That’s just the normal environment.” 

He raised a point that others raised too: In the end, while best practices involve the technology, they’re not so much about the technology itself but all the other things around it. 

“Best practices have very little to do with the actual technology; they more have to do with the approach, with the level of engagement, how you communicate, with the focus on how the other individuals you talk to are feeling. Because on the one hand maybe you can say not a lot will change, but on the other hand it’s easy for you to say that because you’re not going through the change. It’s being respectful and understanding,” he said. 

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The tax outlook for president-elect Trump and the GOP

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President-elect Donald Trump and his Republican party clarified one aspect of the uncertainty surrounding taxes with a resounding victory in the election.

That means that the many expiring provisions of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 — which Trump signed into law in his first term — are much more likely to remain in force after their potential sunset date at the end of next year. Financial advisors and tax professionals can act without worrying that the rules will shift underneath them to favor much higher income duties.  

However, the result also presents Trump and incoming Senate Majority Leader John Thune of South Dakota and House Speaker Mike Johnson of Louisiana with a series of thorny tax policy questions that have tricky, time-sensitive implications, according to Anna Taylor, the deputy leader, and Jonathan Traub, the leader, of Deloitte Tax’s Tax Policy Group. Once again, industry professionals and their clients will be learning the minutiae of House and Senate procedures. Taylor and Traub spoke on a panel last week, following Trump’s victory and their release of a report detailing the many tax policy questions facing the incoming administration.

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Considering the fact that the objections of former Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee “slowed down that process for a number of weeks in 2017” before Republicans “landed” on a deficit increase of $1.5 trillion in the legislation, Taylor pointed out how the looming debate on the precise numbers and Senate budget reconciliation rules will affect the writing of any extensions bill.

“They’re going to have to pick their budget number on the front end,” Taylor said. “They’re going to have to pick that number and put it in the budget resolution, and then they’ll kind of back into their policy so that their policies will fit within their budget constraints. And once you get into that process, you can do a lot in the tax base, but there are still limits. I mean, you can’t do anything that affects the Social Security program. So they won’t be able to do the president’s proposal on getting rid of taxes on Social Security benefits.”

Individual House GOP members will exercise their strength in the negotiations as well, and the current limit on the deduction for state and local taxes represents a key bellwether on how the talks are proceeding, Traub noted. 

The president-elect and his Congressional allies will have to find the balance amid the “real tension” between members from New York and California and those from low-tax states such as Florida or Texas who will view any increases to the limit as “too much of a giveaway for the wealthy New Yorkers and Californians,” he said.   

“You will need almost perfect unity — more so in the House than the Senate,” Traub said. “This really gives a lot of power, I think, to any small group of House members who decide that they will lie down on the train tracks to block a bill they don’t like or to enforce the inclusion of a provision that they really want. I think the place we’ll watch the most closely at the get-go is over the SALT cap.”

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Estimates of a price tag for extending the expiring provisions begin at $4.6 trillion — without even taking into account the cost of President-elect Trump’s campaign proposals to prohibit taxes on tips and overtime pay and deductions and credits for caregiving and buying American-made cars, Taylor pointed out. In addition, the current debt limit will run out on Jan. 1. 

The Treasury Department could “use their extraordinary measures to get them through a few more months before they actually have to deal with the limit,” she said. 

“But they’re going to have to make a decision,” Taylor continued. “Are they going to try to do the debt limit first, maybe roll it into some sort of appropriations deal early in the year? Or are they going to try to do the debt limit with taxes, and then that’s going to really force them to move really quickly on taxes? So, I don’t know. I don’t know that they have an answer to that yet. I’ll be really interested to see what they say in terms of how they’re going to move that limit, because they’re going to have to do that at some point — rather soon, too.”

Looking further into the future at the end of next year with the deadline on the expiring provisions, Republicans’ trifecta control of the White House and both houses of Congress makes them much more likely to exercise that mandate through a big tax bill rather than a temporary patch to give them a few more months to resolve differences, Traub said.

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Both parties have used reconciliation in the wake of the last two presidential elections. A continuing resolution-style patch on a temporary basis would have been more likely with divided government, he said.

“Had that been what the voters called for last Tuesday, I think that the odds of a short-term extension into 2025 would have been a lot higher,” Traub said. “I don’t think that anybody in the GOP majority right now is thinking about a short-term extension. They are thinking about, ‘We have an unusual ability now to use reconciliation to affect major policy changes.'”

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M&A roundup: Aprio and Opsahl Dawson expand

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Aprio, a Top 25 Firm based in Atlanta, is expanding to Southern California by acquiring Kirsch Kohn Bridge, a firm based in Woodland Hills, effective Nov. 1.

The deal will grow Aprio’s geographic footprint while enabling it to expand into new local markets and industries. Financial terms were not disclosed. Aprio ranked No. 25 on Accounting Today’s 2024 list of the Top 100 Firms, with $420.79 million in annual revenue, 210 partners and 1,851 professionals. The deal will add five partners and 31 professionals to Aprio. 

In July, Aprio received a private equity investment from Charlesbank Capital Partners. 

KKB has been operating for six decades offering accounting, tax, and business advisory services to industries including construction, real estate, professional services, retail, and manufacturing. “There is tremendous synergy between Aprio and KKB, which enables us to further elevate our tax, accounting and advisory capabilities and deepen our roots across California,” said Aprio CEO Richard Kopelman in a statement. “Continuing to build out our presence across the West Coast is an important part of our growth strategy and KKB  is the right partner to launch our first location in Southern California. Together, we will bring even more robust insights, perspectives and solutions to our clients to help them propel forward.”

The Woodland Hills office will become Aprio’s third in California, in addition to its locations further north in San Francisco and Walnut Creek. Joe Tarasco of Accountants Advisory served as the advisor to Aprio on the transaction. 

“We are thrilled to become part of Aprio’s vision for the future,” said KKB managing partner Carisa Ferrer in a statement. “Over the past 60 years, KKB has grown from the ground up to suit the unique and complex challenges of our clients. As we move forward with our combined knowledge, we will accelerate our ability to leverage innovative talent, business processes, cutting-edge technologies, and advanced solutions to help our clients with even greater precision and care.”

Aprio has completed over 20 mergers and acquisitions since 2017, adding Ridout Barrett & Co. CPAs & Advisors last December, and before that, Antares Group, Culotta, Scroggins, Hendricks & Gillespie, Aronson, Salver & Cook, Gomerdinger & Associates, Tobin & Collins, Squire + Lemkin, LBA Haynes Strand, Leaf Saltzman, RINA and Tarlow and Co.

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Johnson says Congress will ‘do the math’ on key Trump tax pledge

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House Speaker Mike Johnson said Donald Trump’s plan to end income tax on tips would have to be paid for, injecting a note of caution into one of the president-elect’s key campaign pledges.

“This is one of the promises that he wants to deliver on,” Johnson said Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union. “We’re going to try to make that happen in the Congress. You’ve got to do the math.”

Johnson paired his comment with pledges to swiftly advance Trump’s economic agenda once the newly elected Congress is in place with Republican majorities in the House and Senate. The former president rolled out a series of tax-cut proposals during his successful bid to return to the White House, including rescinding taxes on overtime, Social Security checks and tips.

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“You have got to make sure that these new savings for the American people can be paid for and make sure the economy is a pro-growth economy,” said Johnson, who was among allies accompanying Trump to an Ultimate Fighting Championship event at New York’s Madison Square Garden on Saturday night.

Congress faces a tax marathon next year as many of the provisions from the Republicans’ 2017 tax bill expire at the end of 2025. Trump’s declared goal is to extend all of the personal income tax cuts and further reduce the corporate tax rate.

A more immediate challenge may be ahead as Trump seeks to install loyalists as cabinet members for his second term starting in January, including former Representative Matt Gaetz as Attorney General, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as secretary of health and human services and former Representative Tulsi Gabbard for Director of National Intelligence. 

Gaetz was under investigation by the House Ethics Committee for alleged sexual misconduct and illicit drug use, which he has denied. RFK Jr. is a vaccine skeptic and has endorsed misleading messages about vaccine safety.

Donald Trump Jr., the president-elect’s son who has been a key player in the cabinet picks, said he expects many of the choices will face pushback.    

“Some of them are going to be controversial,” Trump Jr. said on Fox News’ Sunday Morning Futures. “They’re controversial because they’ll actually get things done.”

‘Because of my father’

Trump Jr. suggested the transition team has options if any candidate fails to pass Senate muster.

“We’re showing him lists of 10 or 12 people for every position,” he said. “So we do have backup plans, but I think we’re obviously going with the strongest candidates first.”

Trump Jr. said incoming Senate Majority leader John Thune owes his post to the president-elect.

“I think we have control of the Senate because of my father,” he said. “John Thune’s able to be the majority leader because of my father, because he got a bunch of other people over the line.”

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